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    The Prophecy Glitch

    I don't think it's that complex. GRRM toys with prophecy, because it's a way of seducing the reader's interest and creating suspense, which he then delights in keeping perennially unsatisfied. While I like your idea of second-lifing dragons, your presentation of the 'solutions' to the prophecies has always been a tad forthright, admitting of no alternative, and therefore likely to be wrong. Remember GRRM's warning to the 'cocky' in this respect!
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    The Prophecy Glitch

    Agreed. In fact, I think GRRM is issuing a warning not only not to get too obsessed with unraveling the prophecies, but on a meta- level not to get too obsessed with trying to 'crack the code' of his books, for which the prophecies, like the weirnet, are a metaphor. If I've gleaned anything from these evaporated years examining his prose -- as slippery as the changing reflections of an Other's armor -- it's the subliminal challenge he lays down to the reader, to extricate oneself from this ultimately maddeningly open-ended activity, before it consumes one! Like Bran, we must pull ourselves together and leap -- out of, instead of into, the text. GRRM abandoned this text a long time ago. I don't know what we, myself included, are still doing here?! Some like @Unchained, my missed partner in 'countermockery,' succeed in escaping GRRM's weir of words (™); others do not. I know @Lost Melnibonean will understand.
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    The Prophecy Glitch

    We are probably all missing something, although I couldn't tell you what that is, as it eludes also me! No, it's not essential. They are like teasers, the full significance of which one only really understands after the fact of their coming to fruition. Nevertheless, I find it fun to endlessly speculate on the meaning of a 'nennymoan' (please enlighten me, @By Odin's Beard...), although I'd be daft to presume it's 'essential'! Most of the time, I can see that Martin is doing something, although I don't know why! He repeats himself a lot (symbolically, that is), for example. This curious kaleidoscopic reiteration has been picked up by various readers, e.g. @Kingmonkey, @Feather Crystal, @LmL or @Rusted Revolver and me, etc. We all have different hypotheses, as diverse as 'puppets of ice and fire,' 'moon meteor fractals,' 'inversion of history,' and GRRM's real-life love triangle 'Me-LISA-(a)ndre', respectively! In the end, I'm more of a literal reader than you might think, in that the equivocation game eventually becomes tiresome, and I desire satisfying resolutions.
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    The Prophecy Glitch

    Each to their own. This story can be accessed on many different levels. However, I would be cautious before issuing such an overly-confident, dismissive proclamation that "these sorts of parallels don't matter"... You may not be a symbolic reader, but GRRM is most definitely a symbolic writer!
  5. The real dichotomy is, as you once pointed out at the top of your excellent Puns and Wordplay thread, between SWORDS vs. WORDS: To the point about textuality (both in terms of texts and textiles), perhaps 'sewing' the frayed fabric of society back together involves a facility with words. GRRM is asking a probing question, more relevant than ever, regarding wielding words with integrity, when he reminds us that 'the man passing the SENTENCE, should swing the sword.' 'My own name is a killing word. Will it be a healing word as well?'
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    ASOIAF Jokes

    Thanks for the clarification. Even if it's not Egg himself, the 'bald' head may nevertheless still be a symbolic allusion to him, the egghead of the undercover dragons being quite a distinctive recurring sign (think of Varys or Dany). P.S. Yes, I've been told to read them before, but I'm a stubborn bird.
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    Jon and Bran - a Shared Dream, Direwolves and More

    I find myself returning to this topic again and again. Besides the question of the origin of the Others, Jon's dream is the mystery which most continues to fascinate me. You bring up a great point many readers have curiously stayed clear of addressing. Setting aside the controversial subject of 'time travel' for a moment, I would like someone to explain firstly, why Bran appears in the dream as a weirwood avatar in ACOK, when as you correctly point out he only 'weds the tree' and awakens his greenseeing powers proper in ADWD. At that point in his arc in 'real time' (i.e. Bran ACOK), he is actually afraid of the tree and its tree dreams calling him, rather than having assumed the greenseer throne and confidently taken up root in it (i.e. Bran ADWD). I hope no-one dares suggest that this is merely 'foreshadowing'... I need more to satisfy me than that! Secondly, I would like a clear and definitive explanation as to why GRRM has included the telltale marker of the time-lapsed weirwood growing up in fast-forward, as an integral feature of the dream, which seems to indicate a timeshift. Much as I love symbolism, a vague allusion to Bran's maturing magical powers is not really adequate to account for the tree phenomenon, especially when taken in conjunction with a similar motif GRRM has already shown us in the AGOT 'coma dream', in which the trees shrink away into nothing as they 'die in reverse', which as I've interpreted it, is a sign of time elapsing in the present to past direction. Finally, let me add a friendly reminder, that just because we do not like a thing, that is not sufficient reason to automatically disqualify it from possessing validity. For example, I have not hidden my distaste for the 'Tyrion as secret Targ' theory, yet with time I've had to concede that the preponderance of evidence overwhelmingly favors it. Likewise, if one follows the discrepancies of Jon's dream to their logical conclusion... Another good question. It's perplexing that most readers accept that Bran, the untrained greenseer ingenue hunkering down in the crypt, is capable of unconsciously opening someone's third eye. I simply don't buy it. Whomever one deems the three-eyed crow to be, surely we all agree that they are an advanced order greenseer who opened Bran's third eye intentionally and in full consciousness of what they were doing? This would necessarily imply intact memory after the fact of what one had done, which is not the case for Bran. If Jon is able to recollect the dream, relating the details to his Night's Watch brothers afterwards, then how come Bran the purported mastermind is unable to similarly remember it? In other words, why is he confused when he wakes up, when Jon isn't? "Maybe he had only dreamt it' is not good enough to account for such an advanced power. The argument that Bran is a prodigy who performs advanced magic feats unconsciously is also not very convincing! Are you suggesting Bran opened his own third eye?! Agree on all counts. Yes, there is definitely an echo of Bran in that Old Nan tale. The legend of Gendel and Gorne also springs to mind.
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    ASOIAF Jokes

    Is the bald knight in hard pursuit Egg? So then he's a hard boiled (bald) egg! If he keeps falling, then Humpty Dumpty reference? (I've never read Dunk & Egg!)
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    ASOIAF Jokes

    I'm not following. Can someone please explain the significance of this quote to me? Not getting the joke either Is it the potential sexual innuendo that is so titillating..?
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    Silverwing and the Dying of the Dragons

    Reading between the lines, GRRM is actually very interested in the Jeyne Poole! (pun courtesy Leech @The Fattest Leech)
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    [spoilers] Aerea

    Three questions: Firstly, what immediately jumps out is that GRRM has deliberately made the name AEREA a palindrome. He likes Alice-Through-The-Looking-Glass-type games, so this mirror reflection is significant for some reason. What is the deeper significance? Any ideas? Secondly, why the 'baby swap' motif cropping up everywhere, of which this fits the pattern? Think, for example, of the case of Monster, Gilly and Craster's child, swapped by Jon for Aemon Steelsong, Mance and Dalla's baby, his milk brother. Because of the switch, one child is destined to be burned, while another escapes under an alias. Aerea is not really Aerea, but in actual fact her twin sister Rhaella, who gets burnt by Valyrian sorcery. Finally, it's obvious GRRM is comparing these worms, whatever they are physically, to weirwoods symbolically. Snakes with faces, worms with hands, squishy and wriggly etc., like magical parasites, described as possessing the victim much in the same way we see Bloodraven's body rather obscenely riddled through, and reduced to a corpse by the nest of roots compared to milk snakes and graveworms. The invasion of one species, as it were, by another, is a skinchanger metaphor. Mysteriously, the victim in the end is compelled to utter terrifying words, or 'speak in (unspeakable) tongues', which has echoes of a greenseer painfully acquiring the True Tongue, by sacrifice. So, what is the author telling us about the relationship, if any, between Valyria and 'Old Gods' skinchanging/greenseeing magic?
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    POEMS (or other sundry quotes) that remind you of ASOIAF -- V2

    This Be The Verse They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. PHILIP LARKIN
  13. 12+1=13 Last Hero Math 6+1=7 Night's King or Stranger Math...
  14. Ooh, lucky them! Good that they are such 'highly decorated veterans'. You need all the help you can get, in possession of this terrible knowledge! I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.
  15. It also sets up a game among the readers, all vying with one another to 'crack the mystery,' aiming to be among the privileged few to figure it out first. This inevitably gives rise to anxiety that someone else may know something one hastn't quite gleaned. Hence the absurd popularity of this essentially vapid OP, claiming to know the mind of the author. Oh, you think GRRM plays fair, do you..? Sweet summer child... Well said. This is a metaphor for reading. Agreed. The particular example you referenced is reminiscent of GRRM's stated fondness for fulfilling prophecy in unexpected ways, blurring the spirit and the letter, giving the words an ironic twist. Indeed. We would do well to remember that instead of one elite person possessing The Top Secret, it is rather a case of We All Know Nothing! "I know words; I have the best words..." Which quote? It isn't appearing in your signature in my feed.
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