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  1. Nevets

    "characters who are perfectly nice"

    My first reaction is that it was referring to Sansa. She is widely disliked, is regarded as a rival to Arya, who is quite popular, and, especially in later books, is a very nice person. Jon is the second one I think of. He gets a lot of hate, mostly from Daenerys fans it seems. They probably feel threatened by his Targaryen blood.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    I think you are reading way too much into that one conversation. As far as Sansa knows, sweetsleep is the only means available to stop his fits, and they need to be stopped for the trip down from the Eyrie. If I recall correctly, she agrees not to give him any more in the future, which seems to mollify the maester. I doubt that Sansa knows much about how sweetleep works. I'm not entirely sure myself. And there is nothing in her thoughts about harming Sweetrobin. As I've said before, her actions may be negligent, but there is no reason to believe that they are in any way malign.
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    Sansa's betrayal consequences partly overestimated?

    Sansa's loyal to the Starks. Her betrayal to Cersei was negligent, not an act of deliberate harm, and the result of not knowing all the facts or the stakes involved. She certainly had no intent to cause harm to anyone. By the way, it is unlikely they would have made it to Winterfell had they gotten away from Kings Landing. Ned gave his captain a letter for Stannis, which would have necessitated a visit to Dragonstone. Ships stopping at Dragonstone were not allowed to leave, however, so they would have been stuck, at least until Stannis's attack on Renly. I think Theon had taken Winterfell by then, or was close to doing so.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    Care to elaborate?
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    It requires nothing of the sort. And there is little to nothing to indicate that Sansa is even aware that Robert is being drugged harmfully. I don't believe for a minute that she is intent on harming Robert, as opposed to negligently causing or allowing harm to occur, which is entirely possible. She has yet to deliberately harm another person, and I don't see her starting now. As for Littlefinger's comment about Robert being destined to die, everybody expects him to die well before adulthood. Jaime even says he "won't live long enough to breed." And it wasn't homicide that he was expecting to be the cause, either. The boy is sickly, and has been for a long time. I do worry about Sansa maybe being a bit too biddable, and too willing to ignore unpleasant facts, but that is a far cry from seeking advancement over her cousin's dead body,, for which I see no evidence whatsoever.
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    [TWOW Spoilers] Alayne I, v. 3

    I'm going to have to go with @Elegant Woes on this one. Sansa's retention of her basic decency and kindness isn't a minor theme, it's the principal theme of her story. She has been through such horrors, andn had people try to change her for the worse, it is amazing she is as nice as she is. Of course it is possible to play the Game of Thrones honorably. Essentially, it is the Westeros version of politics. And the methods used, such as manipulation, persuasion, or even coercion, can be used for good ends or bad. Cersei has had a tendency to use them for ill, as has Littlefinger. I expect that Sansa will not follow in their footsteps. Her personality and world view are very different from theirs and her upbringing as the child of Ned Stark and Catelyn Tully will stand her in good stead. At this point, the only person's political gain she is actively seeking is Robert's. Any health trade-offs, such as using sweetsleep to calm him on the trip down from the Eyrie, and done for this purpose, so he will become more confident and not be seen as too weak. My impression of what is going on is that GRRM is setting up Littlefinger to be Sansa's antagonist. He will obviously be her mentor, but she will eventually break with him. The other Stark children have similar arcs as well. Arya will learn from the FM, but eventually break with them, and I think Bran will do the same with Bloodraven and the Children of the Forest, who I expect have an agenda that Bran will ultimately disagree with.
  7. Ned - Regional administrator or government regulator. Fits his sense of duty and honor. Arya - Athlete, and captain of her team. As adult, goes into politics or becomes military officer. Definite leadership abilities. Sansa - Marries rich up-and-comer and lives happily in the suburbs, raising a large, well-behaved family. Samwell - Academic historian who writes best-selling books about historical figures. Stannis - Prosecutor you don't want to angle with. That or a super-tenacious investigator. Renly - Fashion designer it is. Littlefinger - Financier who thinks rules are for other guys. Slippery as an eel. Tyrion - Colleague of Sam's, but in the political science department. Drinks and screws around too much, but is careful not to do anything to jeopardize his job.
  8. Everybody seems to be forgetting that rescuing Sansa is not a simple endeavor. Robb would have to select a team at least some of whom Sansa knows. (No reason to think she will go with strangers) This team would have to get into the Red Keep, access to which is tightly controlled. They would then have to find Sansa and get her alone (so the alarm doesn't immediately get given). And determine whether Arya is in the area. They then have to get her out of the (well-guarded) Red Keep without being detected. They have to get her out of Kings Landing, which is a walled city with limited access points. They have to escort a 12-year-old girl across a couple hundred miles of a warzone controlled by the enemy, while evading the intensive search that will undoubtedly be made. And if she is caught escaping, her situation is almost certainly going to be even worse than it was before. It should also be noted that Robb has Jaime as a hostage, thus ensuring that Sansa won't, at least, be killed out of hand. I would say that the risks involved way outweigh the possible gains.
  9. Nevets

    The Red Wedding Was Justified.

    Guest right is more like a sacred oath sealed by a religious-style ceremony. As such, its violation is way more serious than that of a mere law promulgated by the King. And it is clear that the population of Westeros regards it as being beyond the pale, as it were.
  10. Retrieving Sansa would not be all that easy. While getting into Kings Landing would be quite easy, the Red Keep would be another matter. Access to it is tightly controlled. Even if a team got in, it would have to locate Sansa, get her alone, and then sneak her out of the (heavily guarded) Red Keep. Not to mention getting her out of the city and the Crownlands, probably with a search underway. Oh, and some of the men you send will have to be men she knows, or she is likely to refuse to go with them. And unlike Arya, she didn't hang out with the armsmen, so there might not be very many of these. All very risky, so from Robb's point of view, it is probably better to win on the battlefield, and then demand her return as part of a peace settlement.
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    The search goes on for the Hooded Man

    What secret entrance? Is it the one that Theon did not use to sneak into the castle instead of going over the walls (which even he admits was quite risky)? Or perhaps it is the one that Ser Rodrik did not use to take the castle back from Theon. Or the one that Maester Luwin did not use to sneak Bran, Rickon and the Reeds out of the castle. Because if that's the one you are referring to, I doubt it exists. Keeping knowledge of it from Theon makes sense, but if the Master-at-arms and castle's Maester don't know about it, then I am hard pressed to imagine who would. I think his comment "How is it that you still live?" is more of a rhetorical question than actual surprise. In which case, there is no reason to think that he hasn't been there for some time. Given the large number of men in the castle, he could have come in with one of the visiting lords' retinues. I think Manderly in particular had a lot of men with him. And unless his appearance is quite distinctive, he wouldn't necessarily be recognized. By the way, as to Benjen, he spent several weeks at Winterfell; he escorted Jon to the Wall and left at the same time as the King's party. Theon would have seen quite a bit of him. As to recognizing Theon, Theon visited most of the castles as Ned's ward. I expect that there are quite a few people who would recognize him. As a side note, I have no idea who the Hooded Man is, or even if he is important.
  12. I got the impression that Stannis is the IBs contingency plan and a threat than an actual preference. I expect that they will be willing to support any and all contenders, provided that they expect to get paid back, or don't have to expend much money in front in the first place. I expect that their preferred option is to get paid back by the Crown, meaning they want the negotiations with Swyft to succeed. This is supported by the fact that they have rolled out the red carpet. Swyft is getting treated to a play that demonizes his patron's main enemy, with the best seat in the house, and accompanied by one of the top courtesans in Braavos. For the record, I do not believe that Arya is working for anyone. I doubt that the FM would give such an important operation to an unsupervised apprentice, and her planning and preparation (or total lack thereof) isn't consistent with a professional organization like the FM.
  13. I doubt it's Tyrek. I think Tyrek himself is a Chekhov's Gun. His disappearance has been mentioned too often for it not to have some importance, and this would be an exceedingly anticlimactic solution to the mystery. I don't know why he would commit suicide either. He wasn't injured, nor had he run out of money. I am also disinclined to believe it was him based on his hair. If he is in hiding, he would logically take steps to change his appearance, and his hair would be the first thing to change. I don't know who it could be. The Westeros coins are interesting, but we don't know how widespread their circulation is. I think that he was found by the Stranger is more interesting though. It certainly suggests Westeros origin. The only other young Westerosi in Braavos that I can think of is some Frey children that have been fostered out, but I can't see why they would be there either.
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    Poll. Is Bran ever leaving the cave?

    Davos could do it as well. He is headed for Skagos, and the timing is right for him to get involved at Hardhome. From there, it is a comparatively easy journey to the Land of Always Winter, especially if he has to flee Hardhome or goes north in reply to a request from Benjen, for example.
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    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    It is worth noting that the Wheel of Time had several books where the plot slowed to the speed of an arthritic snail. It essentially ground to a halt. Even considering Feast and Dance, ASOIAF is much leaner than that series. My guess is that the Others will launch their attack in the first half of Winds. The North is in complete chaos right now, with serious conflict and fighting at both the Wall and Winterfell, which, by GRRM standards, makes it the perfect time for an attack. I expect it to continue into ADOS, although primarily affecting the North. It's possible that it could get to the trident, but I don't think any farther.
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