oursisthefury69 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It would explain their overall hatred for men. They were first reported after First Men had started chopping down the weirwoods. Perhaps they were children of the forest and or greenseers, who had passed away and became one with the trees and were set free once the previously immortal Weirwoods started getting chopped down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Sorry, too crackpot for me, and on top of that you have no evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerius Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I like the idea. I support a Save-The-Weirwood-Forest movement. What better way to promote wierwoodhugging than educating people on the consequence of deforestation - walking zombie sorcerers of evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oursisthefury69 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 ^@SonofStannis I mean I don't need a personalized apology on account of it being too crackpot for your taste as if this was specifically addressed to you or something. And there is zero "evidence" on what or who they came from in the text, hence the need for a hypothesis. God forbid somebody discusses something abstract like the Others origins; instead of re-contributing the same "evidence" day in and day out for things that were easy to figure out 18 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 ^@SonofStannis I mean I don't need a personalized apology on account of it being too crackpot for your taste as if this was specifically addressed to you or something. And there is zero "evidence" on what or who they came from in the text, hence the need for a hypothesis. God forbid somebody discusses something abstract like the Others origins; instead of re-contributing the same "evidence" day in and day out for things that were easy to figure out 18 years ago Wow someone has thin skin, was just stating my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha's Suckling Babe Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 GRRM has repeatedly said The Others are living creatrures. I like your speculation of their hatred being connected to chopped weirwoods, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerius Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I don't understand why there aren't any new Weirwood trees being planted. I mean, we know from Bran that there are wierwood seeds (he eats them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I don't understand why there aren't any new Weirwood trees being planted. I mean, we know from Bran that there are wierwood seeds (he eats them). No one cares enough to I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerius Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 No one cares enough to I suppose. The Children of the Forest care. They clearly benefit from having weirwood trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Sorry, too crackpot for me, and on top of that you have no evidence.Redundant much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oursisthefury69 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 @Ashassucklingbabe I know what your talking about, but I also think there's something more to what happens to the CoTF, greenseers,and skinschangers after they die; I'd specifically reference the Varamyr prologue (and I know Bloodraven says something at one point as well) where he's literally describing what happens after he dies, and talks about seeing through the wierwood and several animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Sounds like the plot for Memory, Thorn and Sorrow, so who is Ine'luki...err...The Great Other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 IMO The children created them then realized they couldn't be controlled and tried to help stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oursisthefury69 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 @BastardSnow Yes but how did they "create" them? Do we believe they have the power to create new life? I think there's some evidence that CotF/Skin-changers/green-seers live on in the weirwoods after death, and that the Others themselves seem to be very powerful/magical. I think it'd make more sense if they somehow reanimated dead people the way we've seen from the Others and Thoros, and somehow warged into them themselves or allowed the CotF previously living on in the trees to inhabit the reanimated corpses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The Children of the Forest care. They clearly benefit from having weirwood trees. True but theres like only 50 of them left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Redundant much? Someones a stalker, Im flattered :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 IMO The children created them then realized they couldn't be controlled and tried to help stop them. FrankenOthers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Someones a stalker, Im flattered :rolleyes:I guess you didn't realize since in general "crackpot" tends to just be thrown around as "I don't like your theory" nowadays... But what it actually is supposed to mean is that a theory lacks evidence.So you said it lacks evidence, plus that it lacks evidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I guess you didn't realize since in general "crackpot" tends to just be thrown around as "I don't like your theory" nowadays... But what it actually is supposed to mean is that a theory lacks evidence.So you said it lacks evidence, plus that it lacks evidence...The theory doesnt make sense to me thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Shouldn't the Others have come back during the Andal invasion then, because the Andals were apparently quite fundamentalist at first and cut down loads of weirwood (before making a 180 and was completely fine with a weirwood in every castle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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