MissMatchedEyes Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I've always been intrigued by Varys' story of how he was cut and "the voice from the flames". What are your thoughts? Is this the red God at work? Or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Blood and fire magic in a former Valryan colony. Back then it only got a voice. Imagine what it would do now that magic has returned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMatchedEyes Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 So what happened to him was blood magic? I just wonder what was gained from the loss of his...parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Blood in getting his penis and testicles cut off, fire in having them burned in a brazier. Magic in that it was used to contact an otherworldly being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 My theory is that Varys was a FM acolyte and the whole ritual was part of the FM initiation:Varys was a mummer: We know the FM acolytes do some kind of internship with mummers (maybe Varys performed at the Ship, the theater/brothel where the audience could pay to get some the actors. That sure sounds like the man who cut him)The Kindly Man tells Arya that Him of Many Faces will take all of her, including her "private parts"The KM also says something about "drinking from the cold cup", which could be the potion the man used to numb Varys before cutting him. We also know the FM use potions like that, like the one they gave Arya to make her blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Blood and fire magic in a former Valryan colony. Back then it only got a voice. Imagine what it would do now that magic has returned Interesting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Rock Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Blood in getting his penis and testicles cut off, fire in having them burned in a brazier. Magic in that it was used to contact an otherworldly being This. The sorcerer was likely just trying to make contact with a being of another plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazfemur Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I still believe it was Marwyn that cut him. Marwyn taught Mirri about the human body and magic. Mirri made blood sacrifices and paralyzed Drogo. Varys said (the sorceror) gave him a potion that paralyzed him, then cut off his junk. Similar properties, as the junk would be harnessed as blood magic, especially, if Varys has valyrian blood (NOT kingsblood, the secret is in valyrian). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I have always thought that Captain no-dong would recognize the Maesters chain if Marwyn was the one who cut him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitron Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Blood and fire magic in a former Valryan colony. Back then it only got a voice. Imagine what it would do now that magic has returned So now it's in Hi-Def, 3D, and Dolby SurroundSound? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I have to wonder if Varys' tale is true, though, or if he maybe added to it or left elements out. If there is more to his background than is obvious, and he has indeed some sort of Targaryen connection, he would probably not make that publicly known, and for all we know, there could be more to how he became a eunuch as well. Targaryens have been known to do all sorts of weird things in order to breed dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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