House Mosse Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Jon notes in the s06e05 that they don't have enough men to both fight the Boltons and hold the Wall against the Walkers at the same time. Ramsay said in his letter that if Jon hands over Sansa the Boltons will let the Watch and the wildlings alone. Jon has said that he has been released from his vows to the Watch, but nevertheless, he did swear to have no family and to put the defence of the wall before everything else. He also swore to have no part in the affairs of the seven kingdoms. Stark vs. Bolton certainly amounts to the affairs of the seven kingdoms. Also, at a cosmic level, I think anyone would have to agree that saving the human race from the Walkers is more important than the personal affairs of the Starks, the current political affairs of the North, or even the safety of his sister. This also echoes the choices that were before Ned, who Jon most respects, and his decisions as to what was the most honourable path. When Ned discovers that Joffrey is not Robert's son, he tries to do the honourable thing, even when it becomes clear that this will mean his life. However, when Varys threatens his family (Sansa in fact), Ned backs down, lies in public and hands the Kingdom to the false king Joffrey. See the following conversation between Maester Aemon and Jon: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Jon, did you ever wonder why the men of the Night's Watch take no wives and father no children?" Maester Aemon asked. Jon shrugged. "No." ... "So they will not love," the old man answered, "for love is the bane of honour, the death of duty." That did not sound right to Jon, yet he said nothing. ... The old man seemed to sense his doubts. "Tell me, Jon, if the day should ever come when your lord father must needs choose between honor on the one hand and those he loves on the other, what would he do?" Jon hesitated. he wanted to say that Lord Eddard would never dishonor himself, not even for love, yet inside a small sly voice whispered, He fathered a bastard, where was the honor in that? ... "He would do whatever was right," he said ... ringingly, to make up for his hesitation. "No matter what." "Then Lord Eddard is a man in ten thousand. Most of us are not so strong. ... And we all do our duty, when there is no cost to it. How easy it seems then, to walk the path of honor. Yet soon or late in every man's life comes a day when it is not easy, a day when he must choose." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, will Jon make the choice his father did and forgo his vows and his duty for the sake of protecting his family, and Sansa in particular, or will he follow the much more difficult path and sacrifice his sister so as to honour his vows and do his duty - to protect the realms of men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Mosse Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Though I guess in the book it would be Jeyne Poole rather than Sansa that Ramsay is married to, so it would be a bold move for D&D to upgrade that to Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 There's no way Jon would turn Sansa over. Even if he did, there's no guarantee that Ramsey would keep his word. Quite likely it would make him think Jon was weak and provoke him into attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandean Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 If Jon did that then I think the entire fandom would be outraged and would have felt like his character was ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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