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  1. So, a while back I decided to do this little character study wherein I took the main family of House Stark (Ned, Cat, Robb, Sansa, Arya, Bran, Rickon, Jon) and looked at their characters and then at what house words they seemed to embody the most. Some of them I still have some struggle with thinking of due to either lack of material or my own failings so if you have any advice for the bits I miss then that'd be cool. Either way I hope you like what I have to say or at least want to add your own thoughts. Anyway, here it goes. Ned: Ned is/was Lord Of Winterfell and Warden of the North but he spent a majority of his childhood/adolescence in the Vale. He was the ward of Jon Arryn, whom while we don't get to meet, we know he was at least considered honorable and diligent. House Arryn's words are As High as Honor and I believe those words fit Ned more than Winter is Coming because Ned is considered an incredibly honorable -- if to the point of stupidity -- character. The honorable Lord Stark. I like to think there's a double meaning to As High As Honor hidden in there; Ned doesn't ring himself down to play courtly politics even when it's crucial and he does judge the 'honor' of other characters or their actions. Catelyn: This one is pretty easy. Family, Duty. Honor. Most of what Catelyn does, no matter how stupid or misguided, is for her family. Robb: As High as Honor. I think he' been the most influenced by Ned in this regard. We really see this with Jeyne Westerling in ASOS. However, he does have an issue when it comes to honor-- when doing one deed meant to be honorable he breaks another honored oath and vow. We don't really get inside his mind very much but I think that the Arryn words fit him best though if anyone has any other ideas, feel free to share them. Sansa: Ironically, I feel like Sansa is Winter is Coming. She's the least 'Stark-like' out of all the Starks if you're going by her more Southron nature but she also is very much like Ned in her naivity and belief in honor and knights and fair maidens and the right thing -- except for she becomes disillusioned after Ned dies and now has to survive out the so called 'winter' or hardest part of her life. Over the books we see her prepare by learning how to survive in King's Landing and the Eyrie and through situations another character might've made a fatal misstep for a while. Winter is Coming I think suits her the best because it's a warning versus a boast and it also shows the one thing Starks all know -- endurance in harshness. Arya: Arya is Family, Duty, Honor all the way to her very core. Her entire arc can be focused around not only her identity but her finding new families in characters like Gendry or The House of Black and White or any real group of people while she's searching for her real family. Arya's 'family' is not a narrow definition by blood either -- you're her family if she cares about you. Her biggest issue with the Hound is not that he killed Mycah but that Mycah was her friend which meant family which meant the Hound killed her family. Throughout her arc we see her trying to get back to her family and when that seems impossible, she goes and tries to forget herself but still ultimately cannot shed the skin of Arya Stark and her obligation and feelings toward her family. Her entire kill list is based on people who have hurt her or who she considers family. And compared to family, she couldn't care less about honor if it meant her family was safe. Bran: He's the one I'm not entirely sure of so thoughts would be cool Rickon: Not much is really known about Rickon as a character. He's three in the beginning of the books and they split up at the end of ACOK and we don't really hear from him or about him until a bit later -- though we're not entirely sure if what we hear is really true. He's just not defined enough as a character for this analysis thing. So uh yeah. This is my shitty analysis. Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas? Tomatoes you wanna throw at me?
  2. I never got the Sansa/Sandor ship. Like this is the dude who verbally abuses her, calls her stupid all the time, threatened to rape her, etc. but somehow they're shipped??? Yeah he refuses to beat her. Big fucking whoop. Not exactly star boyfriend material. I just ship Sansa and eternal happiness and am totally fine with making an OC since the show never bothers to give her a consensual love interest. IMO she fell in love with a wonderful man or woman who was awesome and respected her in every way and they complete each other and there was a beautiful wedding and everything is happy ever after.
  3. What I don't get is people being pissed over the Edmure thing. Like if that was the Queen of Thorns or probably any other female character saying it everyone would have cheered. But since it's Sansa suddenly she's just a bitch.
  4. Pandean

    Was Sansa aiming for Jon?

    Makes sense. Sadly.
  5. Pandean

    Was Sansa aiming for Jon?

    If Sansa wanted Jon dead I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have had the entire Northern Army outside the gates of King's Landing in an attempt to get him back since as she told Yara "Harming Jon was not in your best interest". Honestly, she's expressed devotion to Jon over and over even if she doesn't necessarily agree with any of his choices. It shows even when she says goodbye to him. She still refers to him as the North's king and it's clear that she cares about him--especially from that hug. I really can't see this whole "Sansa is plotting to kill/etc. Jon" theory that everyone's been throwing around since season six. I've never seen any evidence of it but I've seen plenty of evidence of a Sansa who is both on Jon's side, is worried and concerned about Jon and if his choices may end up hurting him, and deeply cares for her remaining family.
  6. Pandean

    Moral of each characters story?

    Okay hmmm Dany: Don't let your goals blind you from everything around you; a sense of entitlement does not a good ruler make Jon: Blindly following your heart is just as dangerous as not listening to it at all Bran: honestly no clue dude is basically a tree god Arya: Vengeance will not make you whole; there is more to life than vengeance Sansa: You can still be strong and be traditionally feminine; strength does not necessarily mean fighting or wielding a sword Jaime: Leaving an abuser isn't just as simple as it sounds Tyrion: Don't be blinded by your own intelligence Ned: Honor for honor's sake can get you killed Cersei: Similar to Tyrion except for it's more 'don't be blinded by your perceived ego and intelligence' Stannis: If you're willing to do anything for power, you don't deserve said power Theon: Your family is not necessarily your blood kin
  7. Pandean

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    What made me laugh was that some of the other characters were trying to hide their smiles. They also seemed to be like 'wtf Edmure who even are you".
  8. Wait do you mean "Do the north dirty" as in Dany bringing her troops to Winterfell or for Sansa being crowned?
  9. Pandean

    Best lines of E06

    That scene where Edmure is trying to nominate himself and Sansa says "Uncle, please sit." What's better is you can see everyone else trying to hit their smiles.
  10. Pandean

    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    AO3 is great. I've read some interesting ships with her and somehow they manage to convince me "hey that would work out".
  11. He's got probably the best glow up in the series! Probably all that milk.
  12. Pandean

    Praise without Repercussion, Final Edition

    Sansa being Queen in the North and I thought her telling Edmure to shut up was funny. Brienne writing in the white book. Ghost FINALLY getting the pets he deserves. I think the final scenes between Dany and Jon were good. The dialogue between Tyrion and Jon in the beginning were very good. Arya's arc made sense to me. Sansa's dress was pretty.
  13. When I saw him I did a bit of a double take and then was slightly disturbed with how decent he looked.
  14. I'm sure it's going to be more advanced and stuff than that.