Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I would have to check my copy of Fire and Blood. But Braavos is a city of profit, and I think that the Vale would have to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: I would have to check my copy of Fire and Blood. But Braavos is a city of profit, and I think that the Vale would have to pay. I would be grateful if you let me know later. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 OK, it says that a hastily assembled Vale fleet was augmented by a dozen Braavosi warships. It only says that, not anything about paying for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: OK, it says that a hastily assembled Vale fleet was augmented by a dozen Braavosi warships. It only says that, not anything about paying for them. Since I remembered it that way, I interpreted it as a "help" against dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, YeniAy_Ottoman said: Since I remembered it that way, I interpreted it as a "help" against dragons. I disagree, if Braavos really wanted to help against House Targaryen, they would've sent their entire fleet, equipped with scorpions like the one that killed Meraxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: I disagree, if Braavos really wanted to help against House Targaryen, they would've sent their entire fleet, equipped with scorpions like the one that killed Meraxes. There may be scorpions in ships. We do not know this. However, just because you have 1000 ships, you do not send 1000 ships to war, this is technically a very serious financial burden, and if the other person already has (figuratively speaking) 15 ships, 10-15 or 20 ships would be enough. So you send as many forces as you think you can defeat the enemy. The power of the Targs was not the number of ships or soldiers, but the dragons. So any ship or military aid was undoubtedly inadequate, because no soldiers and ships could easily resist dragons. Geographical advantages such as Dorne or the north are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 No location would be conductive to killing dragons. But yes, sending a massive fleet would be expensive and foolhardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jaenara Belarys said: No location would be conductive to killing dragons. But yes, sending a massive fleet would be expensive and foolhardy. No, I mean geographic conditions are necessary to resist dragons; The mountainous region of Dorne and the cold, snowy weather of the north are a good advantage (dragons hate cold and blizzards and become weak). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, YeniAy_Ottoman said: No, I mean geographic conditions are necessary to resist dragons; The mountainous region of Dorne and the cold, snowy weather of the north are a good advantage (dragons hate cold and blizzards and become weak). It doesn't make them weak. Maybe after quite a time in the cold environment, but not instantly weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 And that's not geography, that's meteorological. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Vermax during the Dance in 129 AC was ill tempered and angry. Dragons react to the cold, but I don't think they're really physically affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: It doesn't make them weak. Maybe after quite a time in the cold environment, but not instantly weak. 50 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: Vermax during the Dance in 129 AC was ill tempered and angry. Dragons react to the cold, but I don't think they're really physically affected. Of course, the moment they go to a cold place, they do not suddenly weaken. In time ... Just because dragons are standing on the snow, their firepower doesn't disappear, I don't mean such a thing... but if they get into a blizzard, I don't think they will be able to fly. Dragons were very uneasy even in the rain. Think about it this way, how would you be able to move in extremely cold weather? Can you act with all your efficiency? No. I beliebe dragons are like that. In the snow storm ... as I said, they probably can't fly. 52 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: And that's not geography, that's meteorological. Just sayin Geography for Dorne, meteorological for the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Dragons could and can still fly in rain. Arrax was able to fly. Meraxes at the Last Storm could still fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: Dragons could and can still fly in rain. Arrax was able to fly. Meraxes at the Last Storm could still fly. I say snow storm. Like on the show. Rain bothers but snow storm? I did not think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 In the show, the dragons were still able to fly. They just couldn't see as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: In the show, the dragons were still able to fly. They just couldn't see as well You got me wrong. I'm talking about a terrible blizzard like on the show. I am not showing Show as a reference, I am showing an example. I never use Show as a reference. D&D is someone who let swim dragons in the sea! D&D is someone who sharpens a Valyria sword with a whetstone! I cannot use the fiction of such people as references for books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaenara Belarys Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 ye that sharpening sword that basically never need be sharpened with a regular STONE is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeniAy_Ottoman Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: ye that sharpening sword that basically never need be sharpened with a regular STONE is ridiculous. This should have been explained to D&D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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