cerankoman Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Coldhands is one of the Children of the Forest. Which describes his dark earth colored skin and his cold touch, Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancer Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I reckon Coldhands is Ben Stark, personally. Though I do think the Crone under Heart Hill and Old Nan are distant relations to the Children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriormonk Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Coldhands is, in my eye, an agent of the three eyed crow. He could still be Ben, if on his ranging he ran into a series of random events that led him to the three eyed crow. He could also be a COTF, but I think this is less likely. And of course, he might just be a random new character not introduced in ASoIaF yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoish Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I think its Benjen Stark. Black hands would indicate an undead frosty human. He used to be on the wall and was a 'Crow' and since the rest of the Starks are all wargs (3 eyed), it would perhaps explain his control of the Ravens and giant Elk too, which might also explain why he isn't a complete zombie.Or maybe the Old Gods or Children of the Forest saved him from being a complete zombie due to his being a Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseult Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't think he is one of the children. Sam describes him as a brother of the watch until he sees his hands. He knows the secret entry of the watch, but can't pass through it because he is a wight.I believe, also, that he is Benjen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of the Forest Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 I don't think he is one of the children. Sam describes him as a brother of the watch until he sees his hands. He knows the secret entry of the watch, but can't pass through it because he is a wight.I believe, also, that he is Benjen.The Children are described as being very small (like children, or the Ghost of High Heart who I believe to be a CotF) but not disproportionate (like dwarves).Coldhands seems to be a full-sized man - and perhaps only because he rides a huge elk I think of him as larger than average. (I should go back and reread the description.)I think of the three-eyed crow as connected with the Children, but like Jojen, Coldhands doesn't have to be one to have a connection also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 I always assumed he was Benjen, saved by the Children like in the story Bran was told by Old Nan (last Ranger left alive, fleeing Others, about to die, Children appear etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Howsmelly Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Coldhands is one of the Children of the Forest. Which describes his dark earth colored skin and his cold touch, Anyone agree?"His hand was black and cold, with fingers hard as stone." (ASOS2 at 82.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notafrey Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I think that cold hands is Ben Stark. Maybe saved by the children but not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Here's a list of disjointed thoughts I have on Coldhands and the Three-Eyed Crow :) I'm not sure if I should spoiler it or not so I will to be on the safe side. BEWARE: the following does contain spoilers if you haven't read the notes from Martin's convention readings, etc.1) I think Coldhands is Benjen Stark who was killed while ranging.2) I think he was never a wight but was resurrected by the Three-Eyed Crow as an ally or assistant in much the same way as Beric Donderrion and Lady Stoneheart were brought back - this explains his autonomy compared to wights.3) I think the fact that Benjen was dead for awhile in the cold North before being brought back accounts for his black hands (i.e. frostbite would quickly set into the extremities).4) I think the Three-Eyed Crow is Bryndon Rivers aka Bloodraven who may or may not be "bodiless" now and has survived so long due to being able to warg from creature to creature or maybe even with many creatures at once (may even be warged with Mormont's raven?)5) I believe the spoiler chapter notes that we've seen concerning Varamyr Six-Skins may lend some support for #4 above.6) I think the name "Three-Eyed Crow" is a big clue that he is Bloodraven. First, Bloodraven with his one eye warged with a crow or raven would literally make a three-eyed crow. Or, second, a NW brother or "crow" who had the ability to warg and/or perform sorcery could be thought of as "opening their third eye" and, thus, would be a "three-eyed crow".7) I don't think Coldhands controlled the elk and ravens when he rescued Bran and the other kids from the wights. I think it was the Three-Eyed Crow helping them.8) I don't believe there are different kinds of magic (i.e. fire, blood, shadow, warging, etc.) I believe there is only "magic" that is manifested, or used, in countless different ways. A possible exception to this is the magic of the Old Gods (i.e. warging, green dreams, etc.) It could be that Bloodraven is/was a very unique individual in that he was Valyrian on his father's side and Blood of the First Men on his mother's side so he could both perform sorcery and Old God magic? Hmm...maybe? :dunno: Also, if this is the case, what could it mean for Jon who "might" have a similar heritage? ;) 9) I think Coldhands couldn't pass through the Black Gate because the Wall, or at least the Black Gate, is warded against sorcery in general and not just so-called "Other" magic. Like I said, highly disjointed, but hopefully some food for thought :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spioraid na habhainn Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 i can't remember exactly what Jojen says about his green dreams, but i'm pretty sure that "the three-eyed crow" could be anything from a metaphor to literal. a "crow" (night's watch nickname) to a "crow" (black thing looking like a raven). maybe it would help to reread some of the detailed descriptions of Benjen Stark before he disappeared and compare it to the descriptions of Coldhands. seems to me that if he is a wight...couldn't Coldhands have been around for a long time. don't remember much more about what wights are. if only Jon had kept Samwell at the Wall long enough to sneeze over those dusty manuscripts and have pity for mice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravenravenkeeper Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 POTN I think you have it right. At least you have it as right as we can with our information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Cilander Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 The Wall blocking all magic makes sense and would explain why Jon couldn't sense Ghost on the other side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 we must remember that coldhands doesnt show his face... i say thats because Bran could recognize him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsb Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 This page speculates about Coldhands:http://www.towerofthehand.com/essays/chris.../coldhands.htmlMy guess is that Coldhands is one of these:-someone/something who has the warg ability--such a person/creature that died then returned from the dead (through any means)-human form of the 3 eyed crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandurang Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I am not that certain that the three-eyed crow isn't either some metaphorical notion or perhaps the inner seer part of Bran. But out of all the things that are mentioned in the article you linked (thanks!) I think Benjen or some other child of the forest-type being are the more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Luke Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I'd be really sad if Coldhands isn't Benjen Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefe91 Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 My guess is that coldhands is nothing more than a wight under ther control of the three eyed crow, I believe that once Bran realizes his true potential he will have the ability to control all creatures wights included not to mention the ability to control other humans like hodor. I think that a truly powerful warg can control multiple creatures over great distances, including Dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Would it be possible that Coldhands is just a wight that someone is warging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Coldhands is Stonesnake. Took me 3 re-reads til I noticed that Stonesnake wasn't caught by the Wildlings, and that he disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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