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  1. Sure, but that isn't necessarily heaven, in the previous books the Iri religion is described in some of the interludes, they believe in an afterlife where you become one with God. Same place could also be interpreted as 'death' rather the afterlife itself. Also the argument "everyone goes to heaven, so why bother doing anything" is precisely against the major deontological themes of the story, you know, the whole "journey before destination." Dalinor vs Taravangian is basically deontology vs consequentialism.
  2. in-universe there's multiple religions, and their conceptions of the afterlife vary, the Vorin religion of the protagonists believe good people go to the Tranquiline Halls and bad people go to Damnation from the readers' point of view, we know these are wrong as the Tranquiline Halls and Damnation are both planets, neither are where dead people, the Halls are Ashyn, rendered largely uninhabitable by surgebinding and Braize, a planet full of spooky ghosts The Beyond, the actual afterlife, is a ???. There isn't necessarily a heaven, Kaladin speaks with his brother's spirit but that doesn't mean his brother is in heaven as there's also the possibility of joining some kinda spirit-gestalt-one-with-universe Force type situation (one of the more 'Cosmere-aware' religions believes in this). Tien might be one with the Force and manifesting like a Force ghost, not in heaven.
  3. Sanderson has said his goal with Kaladin is to convey how suffering major depression is actually like. Meaning that Kaladin might have some inspiring moment that lifts his mood for a bit, but he's inevitably going to come back down i.e. he is mentally ill in a physiological sense, not suffering from existential ennui. If you've ever dealt with people with bad recurrent depression irl, it can be incredibly taxing to both themselves and those around them how they always seem to fall back into the same 'woe is me' thought-patterns after seeming to get better for a while. Hence why mindfulness is considered good for this sort of thing - allowing people to recognize they're falling back into the woe-is-me thoughts and whatnot. However, for a story, yes, seeing Kaladin go through the same thing repeatedly is tiresome.
  4. I thought this was the weakest Stormlight book, which seems to be the consensus even among the Sanderson super-fans. So little happens in so many pages, a great deal could have simply have been cut and have happened off-page. I thought Oathbringer was weaker than the preceding two novels, but at least the ending was d r a m a t i c and exciting. RoW was just lacking in compelling drama throughout. Having reread the series prior to RoW, I get the impression that Sanderson is writing the books as if they were meant to be adapted 1:1 to a 24-episode-a-season television series. They're composed of so many little episodic plots that run alongside the larger plot. In any case, the major story take-away for the book going forwards is clearly
  5. @The hairy bear checked the timeline. It can't be Orso's kid unless Savine has been pregnant for over twelve months.
  6. I agree. They were both naïve in ways that I don't think Orso is. Neither of them really thought they would, you know, die, whereas Orso knows and understands there are factions trying to kill him. Nicholas II was also super-religious to the point of passivity (at least when Rasputin wasn't telling him to go to the front). Louis didn't seem to believe the Revolution was actually happening and didn't have the force of personality or interest in stopping it.
  7. Clearly it's Shivers. He's going to be King of the Union.
  8. Can anyone check what the Maker's mark on Logen's sword looked like? Maybe it's an owl.
  9. random thought: Bayaz is all about the free-market right? So if Orso decided to start auctioning off the right to offer gov't loans (banks would bid interest rates i.e. bond auctions basically), then he could hardly protest could he?
  10. He was 72?! Substantially older than I thought he was (based on when I was a kid reading his books as they came out).
  11. It's a spoiler thread no need for umm hiding the spoilers @Mark Antony In that same scene, I wonder if instead of hitting the ground, this was Ishri/Zuri smacking into her and carrying her out of the blast + whiplash.
  12. In his AMA on Reddit Joe said re:magic This might be linked to the Great Change being supernatural. Book 3 might just randomly have Devils spilling into the world. Sadly, that would also mean Bayaz would return to the peak of his power. No more machines! No more debts! Everyone is a free man! 'cept Bayaz can summon tidal waves and hurricanes and iunno... shrink people and feed them to ants?
  13. More thoughts: I thought the Nail had a bit of characterization in the previous book and was a dick? Or maybe I had just assumed that of him given his association with Stour. I don't believe we saw any visions that confirmed Rikke as sitting on the Northern throne, so I'm inclined to think that Calder might actually manage to sneak it back, especially if he has Bayaz's support still. Moreover, of all people Calder is likely to have known the value of an heir and a spare - the mysterious boy is a second, popularly unknown son. Though, I suppose, Calder could take the throne in his own name now. The fact that they have steam engines pumping water out of mines and trains but their cannons are still 14-15th bombards seems a bit of a disconnect. I don't know much about this subject, but my assumption is that the metallurgical skills necessary to make steam engines would presuppose cannons that don't banana-peel themselves? Moreover, if you can make trains.... why does no one have guns? Unless their metallurgy is seriously lagging their mechanical development? re:Savine - I think she is smarter than Cersei and nearly as smart as she thought she was. Though, I believe she had received more help from her father in her investments than she perhaps knew. But the incident in Valbek broke her brain and motivated some very unwise choices. Now she's the daughter of a crippled master swordsman and married to a crippled master swordsman.
  14. Book's done. So the Weaver was Pike eh? But that doesn't seem to comport with the one dude's statement that the Great Change is mystical in nature? So was that criminal just babbling or is there someone behind Pike? I don't think that that necessarily follows. We don't know whether that's his real name or whether Casamir's full name is known to history.
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