House Dalt Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 MenelausBecause what Chana said about Eusebon voting for Antonin at a turning point yesterday sounds reasonable enough to take a considerable amount of negative attention off of Eusebon... and I've put Menelaus in the same tier as Eusebon earlier, so yeah, him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I still strongly suspect Judah. There's no way to prove money transfers. Did you only receive 10 on night one?I can't make sense of Antonin pushing me away from a Judah vote by making it sound like I would be making myself look suspicious if I voted for him. I can't explain why Gaddi didn't have 5 gelt on him and Antonin had the 5, which makes me believe he was Antonin's symp. If so, he told me to go after Menelaus or Eusebon.I still want Judah though Menelaus is just as viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Targaryen Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 It is Day FiveFive votes are required to lynch, or four votes are required to go to night.Eight players remain: Chana, Eleazar Maccabee, Eusebon, Guriah, John Hyrcanus, Jonathan Maccabee, Judah Maccabee, Menelaus1 vote for Eusebon (Guriah)2 votes for Menelaus (Jonathan Maccabee, Judah Maccabee)Five players have not voted: Chana, Eleazar Maccabee, Eusebon, John Hyrcanus, Menelaus Items in the pot:Hanukkah Gelt x ?Today, John Hyrcanus gets to spin the dreidel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dalt Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I still strongly suspect Judah. There's no way to prove money transfers. Did you only receive 10 on night one?Is this question directed towards me?At no time did I receive anything from anyone. Like I said before, I had 20 gelt and 1 candle at the start of the game. I still have the candle now and I split my gelt between the two bakers on Night 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I still strongly suspect Judah. There's no way to prove money transfers. Did you only receive 10 on night one?I can't make sense of Antonin pushing me away from a Judah vote by making it sound like I would be making myself look suspicious if I voted for him. I can't explain why Gaddi didn't have 5 gelt on him and Antonin had the 5, which makes me believe he was Antonin's symp. If so, he told me to go after Menelaus or Eusebon.I still want Judah though Menelaus is just as viable.Some people are suspicious no matter their role. I am thinking Judah one of these. THere is no way to prove where the money came from BUT he knew what night and how much. That was too big a risk to take.I am feeling much better about a Menelaus lynch.If he is innocent, who should I vig? (taking considerations, but I will make my own decision) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dalt Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I can't make sense of Antonin pushing me away from a Judah vote by making it sound like I would be making myself look suspicious if I voted for him.When did this happen? Where is it in the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'll pull it up. It was part of what I analyzed the night of the Simeone lynch while Aristo and I were discussing another option besides Antonin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Is this question directed towards me?At no time did I receive anything from anyone. Like I said before, I had 20 gelt and 1 candle at the start of the game. I still have the candle now and I split my gelt between the two bakers on Night 2.No the question was to Guriah, I was trying to figure out if there was a way to prove the claim. Because if money comes from several sources you don't know who. But, if you were the only one to transfer, he would have only received 10, which I think I just read that he confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Is this question directed towards me?At no time did I receive anything from anyone. Like I said before, I had 20 gelt and 1 candle at the start of the game. I still have the candle now and I split my gelt between the two bakers on Night 2.Wait, on night two? I thought you said night one. Guriah, how much gelt did you get night two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Targaryen Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 It is Day FiveFive votes are required to lynch, or four votes are required to go to night.Eight players remain: Chana, Eleazar Maccabee, Eusebon, Guriah, John Hyrcanus, Jonathan Maccabee, Judah Maccabee, Menelaus3 votes for Menelaus (Jonathan Maccabee, Judah Maccabee, Guriah)Five players have not voted: Chana, Eleazar Maccabee, Eusebon, John Hyrcanus, Menelaus Items in the pot:Hanukkah Gelt x ?Today, John Hyrcanus gets to spin the dreidel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dalt Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Wait, on night two? I thought you said night one. Guriah, how much gelt did you get night two?Because I have no idea who might need the candle. The gelt at least could help the players I transferred money to to bid on items since I already thought that other player have transferred money to them. Yeah, I split my gelt between the two bakers. This was on Night 2 before I started making a case against Guriah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 OK good. Still Guriah, how much gelt did you get on night 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Wait, on night two? I thought you said night one. Guriah, how much gelt did you get night two?I got 20 on night 2. He has always said night 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Pretty sure it's still four to lynch, I don't think there'd be a quick hammer unless Chana, Jon, Simeon and Menelaus all come on at the same time and decide they don't want to be discussed today. Which would just be dumb.Well I won't be doing that. I have reservations about Judah, which I've stated, but not enough to lynch or hammer right at this moment.@Chana: Nah, I didn't think anyone would have actually done it. I sort of know how you feel about Simeon (unless you really like parroting) and you probably don't want to discuss yourself. Any thoughts on JonMacc or Menelaus?This is the conversation I was talking about. Sure seems like he was placing the safe vote on you but also ensuring you wouldn't get voted by casting suspicion on anyone else who would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I got 20 on night 2. He has always said night 2.I didn't care about the night, well, I did, it doesn't really matter though. What matters is the amount. I gave you ten that same night, so if you would have said you received 10, I would have known it was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dondarrion Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 This is the conversation I was talking about. Sure seems like he was placing the safe vote on you but also ensuring you wouldn't get voted by casting suspicion on anyone else who would.I don't understand what you mean here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 It's where I thought Antonin might be his partner. He placed a vote on Judah, then made that statement about how suspicious anyone else would be if we came along and voted for him. Seemed like a pretty good partner tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Dalt Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 This is the conversation I was talking about. Sure seems like he was placing the safe vote on you but also ensuring you wouldn't get voted by casting suspicion on anyone else who would.You got that from "Nah, I didn't think anyone would have actually done it"?I think that's quite a stretch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Pommingham Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I wondered it from:Pretty sure it's still four to lynch, I don't think there'd be a quick hammer unless Chana, Jon, Simeon and Menelaus all come on at the same time and decide they don't want to be discussed today. Which would just be dumb.I don't think it's a stretch at all. I might be wrong, but it's not a stretch that it's a tactic a partner would use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Ashford Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Oh and again it comes back to the beginning. me or someone else...Then will go with my gut, hoping i have been right all along. Will cast the new "evidence" as null for now and think someone might be toying with us. Would not feel comfortable voting for anyone else atm.JudahI hope you're guilty.. so i can really prepare a great post of: "I told you so" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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