Rickeen Baratheon Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I would've thought it was Arya, but, the Ghost says something else to her. That she is surrounded by death, or along those lines. I believe it is most likely Greywind, as Shaggydog / Rickon's howl would be more anger imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euranus Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I would've thought it was Arya, but, the Ghost says something else to her. That she is surrounded by death, or along those lines. I believe it is most likely Greywind, as Shaggydog / Rickon's howl would be more anger imo.I'm not sure about the anger being associated with Rickon/Shaggydog. Shaggydog's noted aggressive reactions towards others have been out of fear or some other emotional origin. If Rickon's angry, I'm sure it would be associated with and even stem from his grief, so it would kind of be same thing in my book.But the visions are supposed to be ambiguous, so who really knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickeen Baratheon Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Aye, the more I think about it, the more I believe it is Rickon who is the wolf. Also, isn't Shaggydog fighting a unicorn in someone else's vision and is struck by it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euranus Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Unicorn? Hmm... I have no recollection of that, or knew that unicorns existed in GRRM's world. But I'm due for a reread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickeen Baratheon Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 "Nine -and -twenty ships had set sail from the Wall. If half of them were still afloat,Davos would be shocked. Black skies, bitter winds, and lashing rains had hounded them allthe way down the coast. The galleys Oledo and Old Mother’s Son had been driv en onto therocks of Skagos, the isle of unicorns and cannibals where even the Blind Bastard had fearedto land;"They're like goats with one horn, I think. But they're called unicorns in westeros. :3''A wild rain lashed down upon his black brother as he tore at the flesh of an enormous goat, washing the blood from his side where the goat’s long horn had raked him.''Vision from Jon, or Ghost. The Black Brother being Shaggydog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euranus Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Haha...I guess horned goats aren't as majestic, but they can pass for unicorns. I actually can't wait for Davos' first POV in TWOW. Skagos sounds like a cold and rocky hell of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickeen Baratheon Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Same! I'm a huge Rickon fan, too. I also believe the Skagosi won't be as bad as other's think. Also, Davos, Rickon and the Skagosi going to Stannis' aid in the battle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Four and normal rules don't apply to Starks or greenseers. I'm pretty sure Rickon is bothGreen dreamer, maybe, but probably not a greenseer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSongs Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Either Ghost or Summer has a vision of the black brother (ShaggyDog) on a shore taking down a one-horned beast.And musing as a play on words 'no one' hears the lone wolf. But who does Arya become? No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analeigh Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The quote probably referred to Grey Wind, but it could apply to Rickon/Shaggydog too and I like that possibility. Rickon may be absent from the POV's, but Rickon's grief is an interesting topic that hasn't really been addressed on these forums.Isolated as he is on Skagos, I think Rickon probably knows about Robb's death. He probably had another green dream, followed by the news of the Red Wedding reaching Skagos. As for how he reacted, it wouldn't surprise me if he reacted violently with Shaggydog echoing that sentiment. After all, just think about his reaction when Robb was gathering the bannermen to march off to war. Rickon and Shaggydog protested by hiding in the crypts and when they were found, Rickon seized a sword from one of the tombs and slashed at anyone who approached while Shaggydog attacked as well. It took Robb and Grey Wind to subdue them.After hearing about the Red Wedding, I suspect Rickon is just like his siblings: using it as motivation to be stronger for the day when he can get his revenge. In Rickon's case, that probably means training how to use a sword from the Skagosi, embracing the warrior culture, and strengthening the bond with Shaggydog. But imagine the grief Rickon must feel too, knowing that Robb has fallen. With Bran crippled and Jon tied to the wall, Rickon probably believes he needs to become the soldier of the family, to be what Bran cannot be due to his handicap. And I think that's what we'll see when Davos finally encounters Rickon on Skagos: a willful, temperamental boy who is struggling to learn how to be a true Northern soldier, capable of swinging his sword to exact justice for Starks someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estheros Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I can't wait to hear from his adventures.Bran doesn't think about him too much,which i find odd.I hope Rickon gets to meet Sansa and Jon,at least, his reaction to their resemblance to Cat and Ned.But I hope he won't meet with unCat though�� Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Aye, the more I think about it, the more I believe it is Rickon who is the wolf. Also, isn't Shaggydog fighting a unicorn in someone else's vision and is struck by it?Yes, the unicorn raked Shaggydog with its horn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravencrow Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I can't wait to hear from his adventures.Bran doesn't think about him too much,which i find odd.I hope Rickon gets to meet Sansa and Jon,at least, his reaction to their resemblance to Cat and Ned.But I hope he won't meet with unCat though��Well, actually, the Stark children think less and less about their sibling. Arya is trying to be no one,Sansa Alayne, and Bran is focused on his mission. Actually, the one who is more and more obsessed about his family is Jon, the one supposed to "forget" them. I have always assumed Rickon is the wolf, but it can be interpreted in many ways. I'm really looking forward to discovering his fate, hoping he is not dead yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well, actually, the Stark children think less and less about their sibling. Arya is trying to be no one,Sansa Alayne, and Bran is focused on his mission. Actually, the one who is more and more obsessed about his family is Jon, the one supposed to "forget" them. I have always assumed Rickon is the wolf, but it can be interpreted in many ways. I'm really looking forward to discovering his fate, hoping he is not dead yet. Arya is trying to be no one, and failing. She kept Needle and thinks like Arya Stark. Sansa is about to put aside Alayne and get married again. No way Rickon is dead. He's the only male Stark who can continue the line, since Bran can't have children and Jon is tied to the NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Green dreamer, maybe, but probably not a greenseer. Bran has the same dreams, and he's a greenseer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 I can't wait to hear from his adventures.Bran doesn't think about him too much,which i find odd.I hope Rickon gets to meet Sansa and Jon,at least, his reaction to their resemblance to Cat and Ned.But I hope he won't meet with unCat though��Bran thinks enviously about Rickon on his way to the Wall. He thinks Rickon is in White Harbor eating scones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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