Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Patchface as a character has always intrigued me and i always had a belief that he more than just a fool. To see two patchface's prophecies fulfilled, scroll down to the patchface section.One prophecy of Patchface has always interested me.I will lead it. We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh.Now my translation:Seahorses: Aurane Waters (House Velaryon Sigil)Mermaids: Manderly sigilSeashells: One poster suggested that it had something to do with the sigil of House Westerling which is six seashells @ Blutraven. while one poster suggested it had something to do with sansa i;e The "seashells" could pertain to Sansa as well- the boat that took her to the Vale has a figurehead of a merman blowing on a great seashell horn. @ ( Bloodraven ) I tend to agree with the latter poster that it has something to do with Sansa and Vale since there is no connection between House Westerling & Stannis or his southron Knights yet.Now Location of the players who are part of this prophecy or who i believe to be part of prophecy:Aurane Waters as we know from the sample Arianne chapter is at Stepstones engaged in piracy Manderly's have ridden with the frey's to engage Stannis's host at Crowfood Village. Sansa as we know is on the rise to assume power in the Vale. The players of this prophecy seems to have neutral to good relations with House Baratheon of Dragonstone. Aurane Waters: Formerly part of Stannis's host which fought the Battle of Blackwater. Relations now Neutral.Manderly: Has agreed to swear fealty to Stannis if Davos brings Rickon.Sansa: Neutral opinion of Stannis, but that might change to positive if Stannis helps in restoring the North back to the Starks.Stannis's gamble for Kingslanding:Even if GNC plays out, Northerners aren't going to leave Stannis empty handed. They might give Stannis a few thousand soldiers and a fleet to ride south. Aurane Waters with his newly built fleet of drommonds surely has something big in his plans other than being engaged in piracy Sansa Stark could be interested in flexing her muscles by supporting Stannis against the people who have destroyed her family. This all culminates into what i believe will be Battle of Blackwater 2.0.Note: Some posters suggested that this prophecy is based on hardhome since they were talking about Hardhome at that time. But i don't see Stannis making a play for hardhome, same goes for manderly's, waters and sansa.Hole in my theory: I don't know how Aurane Waters will join Stannis same goes for Sansa. If you have some reasons please state.Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta 2 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I put some money in waters, it fits with what patchface said, and also when he was gone from KL it was the major opinon: either he was going with Stannis or to become a pirat....best thing is, that as seen with Saalador, Stannis lets you be both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 I put some money in waters, it fits with what patchface said, and also when he was gone from KL it was the major opinon: either he was going with Stannis or to become a pirat....best thing is, that as seen with Saalador, Stannis lets you be both. Yeah Waters can always join Stannis, but i think he will have to pay something for his bending the knee to the crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta 2 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Yeah Waters can always join Stannis, but i think he will have to pay something for his bending the knee to the crown.I think all those battleships are payment enought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 I think all those battleships are payment enought!Well have we got a count of number of battleships he has or is it not mentioned yet. No.of ships in Aurane's fleet relates to the number Stannis might command.ETA: He has atleast 10 dromonds in his command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceless Man Friday Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 My reading of where Waters went with the ships was that it was rumored he was where they say he is but is he really? He may already be heading to Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 My reading of where Waters went with the ships was that it was rumored he was where they say he is but is he really? He may already be heading to Stannis. Cerseis "redshirth" hand belives he has gone with Stannis, and Pycelle thinks he is going to become a pirat... there are rumors in one of Ariannes WOW chapters, that a pirate with big ships is plundering down south, but he might be aswell Sallador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Cerseis "redshirth" hand belives he has gone with Stannis, and Pycelle thinks he is going to become a pirat... there are rumors in one of Ariannes WOW chapters, that a pirate with big ships is plundering down south, but he might be aswell Sallador Yes according to the Arianne sample chapter there is someone engaged in piracy on Step-stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Snow Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I am under the impression he (Aurane) is now Lord if the Waters and is the one plundering in the Step Stones in th WoW sample chapter. Also, Stannis is Alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I am under the impression he (Aurane) is now Lord if the Waters and is the one plundering in the Step Stones in th WoW sample chapter. Also, Stannis is Alpha.But thats also what Davos susspected Sallador was heading to in his sisters pov chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Also, Stannis is Alpha. What do you mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgenone Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 How many ships do Manderly have really 50? 100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 How many ships do Manderly have really 50? 100? I don't think we know that. But we can assume ~50-60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Snow Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 But thats also what Davos susspected Sallador was heading to in his sisters pov chapter. Its the description of the ships in the Arianne sample chapter that drew me to that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Snow Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 What do you mean by that? Just that he's the Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Its the description of the ships in the Arianne sample chapter that drew me to that assumption.but Salladors Valyria is also huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Just that he's the Boss. Agreed. He is da boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Agreed. He is da boss.indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceless Man Friday Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I may have my timeline mixed up but couldn't the ships around the Step Stones have be Victarions' ? Didn't he do some pirating on his way east? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I dont agree. Aurane Waters will keep on piracy until Dany comes to Westeros and makes her claim. Then he will declare for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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