The Amethyst Empress Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 We know from The Princess and the Queen and The Rogue Prince that dragon eggs were placed in the cradle of Targaryen babies and they would just hatch...No blood magic needed,no big fire!The last dragon eggs that hatched were Aegon's III,Jaehaerys' and Jaehaera's(assuming that their dragon's were hatched in the cradle and not claimed after they grew up a little bit)Viserys Targaryen's dragon egg didn't hatch,neither did little Maelor's(Aegon's II son) So what happened?Many people suspect the maesters for the extinction of the dragons,but what did they do?Did they poison the dragons so their eggs wouldn't hatch? Or did the Doom of Varylia had something to do with it?Did Valyria stop "feeding" dragons with magic 250+ years after the Doom? Do you guys have any ideas?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amethyst Empress Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well this awkward... Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think that up to that point, an adult dragon was necessary to hatch the eggs. The eggs hatched because they had another dragon there to tend them, maybe heat them, whatever. So when the last actual dragon died, the means of hatching the eggs died with her. Doing so again required a sort of perfect storm blood sacrifice that, for whatever reason, no one else was able to replicate before and, we're led to believe in SSMs and Q&As, probably won't be replicated after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think after the Doom, magic began to trickle out of the world. Magic, as a whole, is cyclical and the Doom was the cataclysm at the end of that particular cycle of magic. The dragon eggs hatch for Dany because magic is coming back into the world (hence the Others haven risen at the start of aGoT). She had all the necessary ingredients but it was also just "the right time" in Planetos. Magic needs balance: White Walkers up and about? Time for some fire breathing dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amethyst Empress Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think that up to that point, an adult dragon was necessary to hatch the eggs. The eggs hatched because they had another dragon there to tend them, maybe heat them, whatever. So when the last actual dragon died, the means of hatching the eggs died with her. Doing so again required a sort of perfect storm blood sacrifice that, for whatever reason, no one else was able to replicate before and, we're led to believe in SSMs and Q&As, probably won't be replicated after. That's interesting... So if Dany's dragons layed any eggs would they hatch?? Also,Viserys' and Maelor's egg were brought to them before the Dance so the were many adult dragons around so we would expect them to hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 That's interesting... So if Dany's dragons layed any eggs would they hatch?? Also,Viserys' and Maelor's egg were brought to them before the Dance so the were many adult dragons around so we would expect them to hatch Some eggs just don't hatch. Just like not every egg a chicken or an eagle or a turtle or whatever lays will hatch. If Dany's laid any eggs, sure, it's possible they might hatch. What we're not going to see again, almost certainly, is a hatching the way it was shown in the first book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squab Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think after the Doom, magic began to trickle out of the world. Magic, as a whole, is cyclical and the Doom was the cataclysm at the end of that particular cycle of magic. The dragon eggs hatch for Dany because magic is coming back into the world (hence the Others haven risen at the start of aGoT). She had all the necessary ingredients but it was also just "the right time" in Planetos. Magic needs balance: White Walkers up and about? Time for some fire breathing dragons.Oh dragon seer, do they hatch for anyone or do they need a targ? Is dragon blood not the key and its just some magical cycle? How long is this cycle you speak of? Is it related to planetary movements?Imho its all related to the early embryonic cycle of dragons and their need for evidence as a catalyst for birth. I might just be making that up but its how i imagine it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I think the three best candidates for causes are the maesters, faceless men and magic simply fading from the world. Also, what AppleMartini said about needing dragons to nurse the eggs could be the case, and the Dance obviously weakened the ability to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's the magic at least in large part. The maesters probably were messing with the hatched dragons but I wonder if they even have the capability to do so in a way that would make successive generations weaker? It could be that the hatchlings were getting smaller and sicklier because of the waning of magic in the world. Oh dragon seer, do they hatch for anyone or do they need a targ? Is dragon blood not the key and its just some magical cycle? How long is this cycle you speak of? Is it related to planetary movements?Imho its all related to the early embryonic cycle of dragons and their need for evidence as a catalyst for birth. I might just be making that up but its how i imagine itNeed for evidence? What does that even mean? I'd say there are two magic cycles. The ice one apparently runs about 8,000 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squab Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I was trying to make an unsubtle point. No evidence needed apparently.8000 years? Where did that come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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