Lord Freypie Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Marillon, Pat the blue bard, Symon silvertongue, Daeron, Rylona Rhee (harpist killed by the Sons of the Harpy), Rhaegar, Mance if Pink Letter has some truth in it, in a lesser extent even Sansa the only PoV seen singing...People associated with singing rarely have it easy in Westeros. They seem to be second to none in suffering very cruel fates.In a serie called a Song of Ice and Fire, it may means something. Are they affected by some kind of curse ?Has Martin some personnal grudge against singers ?( related video : http://www.wired.com/2013/07/george-r-r-martin-smash-guitar/ :D )Do you think this trend will continue ?For the moment, of the bards being more than chapter extras, only Tom of Sevenstreams has been spared (if having been outlawed for his song about the floppy fish, and exiled by Lysa to the mountains where the clans took all his gold, don't count) don't you think it won't be for long ? Discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous22 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't think there is a curse. I think bards have a habit of antagonizing their masters and piers. Their place is always a precarious one, they are a luxury item and removing them is largely inconsequential. They are regularly in harms way without the skill-set to save their own skin. Marillion seriously pushed his luck. Acting as if he was a Lord himself. The Blue Bard was unlucky to find himself in the middle of Cerseis scheming. Rhaegar and Mance are no mere bards. We could hypothesize that Northmen are equally as cursed with the frequency that they are 'offed'. Great vid, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waters Gate Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Westeros doesn't have it for artists. Atleast there is a lack in the books of artists like painters, architects, sculpturers. No Breugel or say peter of Montereau. There is not a lot of new stuff being build, no cathedrals or new large castle's. A bunch of rugs hanging on the walls seems enough decoration for a king. Singers? pff, scroundels, like all them "artists", good for nothings phuh. Give me a few more swords damned! = Westerosi mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Freypie Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 True that the world may be as cruel with other artists (like the only pupetteers and dwarf stunts we hear about, or Varys the mummer).But if you take the court fools for example, there's only Dontos to suffer one, while many more are mentionned.Of artists of all kinds singers are the most numerous victims I think (there are some more than those I listed by the way, like the guy who had his tongue cut by Joffrey for singing a bad song about Robert's death).And like I said it concerns both professionnal singers and the few amateurs we see (is there any other character seen or known for singing out of Mance, Rhaegar, Sansa, Tyrion -forgot him singing Tysha's favorite song- and some lords at the red wedding ? none being very lucky). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Star Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Westeros doesn't have it for artists. Atleast there is a lack in the books of artists like painters, architects, sculpturers. No Breugel or say peter of Montereau. There is not a lot of new stuff being build, no cathedrals or new large castle's. A bunch of rugs hanging on the walls seems enough decoration for a king. I wonder if this is due to feudalismn or the fact that there has been war after war. I'd say it's due to lack of a middle class and proper education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Freypie Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 About curse I'm not seriously imagining some witch had cast one of course.But in a serie full of codes, like "eating boar means regime change" can singing be one sign of future suffering ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 You know, in Mexico in real life - today's real life - there are singers / balladeers who do not fare any better:http://www.buzzfeed.com/norbertobriceno/bone-chilling-murders-of-mexican-folk-musicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff_Stark Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 My crackpot theory.......Marillion is alive and unharmed. LF hired him in KL to keep an eye on Cat. Initially, he was to go to WF with her. Remember how Sansa describes him with his wounds concealed? He mocks all of Lysa's suitors, but not him. His story is too easily coaxed for the Lords Declarant.I just don't get how Marillion hits on her in the Inn. She is in her 30s, five kids, bedraggled, dirty, and dressed plain. Yet, he picks her out in the Common Room too easily. He gets to the Eyrie and decides to stay since he has no way to accompany cat after the high road. I don't think we are done with him. Too much invested by GRRM to just fade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Don't forget Hamish the Harper! But then againTom o' Sevens is doing OK... for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmarni Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Jaime sings "Six Maids in a Pool" in SoS. I think the songs will have more meaning at the end of the story. Certainly there will be a few written about the events that take place during the course of the novels. Also, for what it's worth, I'm not a big believer in the series being "full of codes." I do not think the series is a game to be played, it's a series of novels. Hidden meanings, yes, plenty that may be revealed, but not codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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