Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost

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  1. I'd imagine that almost everyone will die. Perhaps Samwell, Daenerys, Sandor, and Sansa will live? I think Jon, Jaime, Cersei, and Arya are as good as dead already.
  2. I agree with this. Ambiguity doesn't seem like George's style for an ending and I can't imagine this playing well for television either.
  3. So I was reading a Vox article [https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/9/1/16225980/game-of-thrones-finale-ending-impossible] that talked about the potential ending of the show. I was impressed with the author's knowledge of the show, but frustrated by the assertion that a satisfying ending is impossible. While the three tropes that the author focused on certainly are accurate, any true fan of Game of Thrones knows that simple will not be GRRM's ending. It discussed how no matter what the ending will be disappointing because the show could not possibly achieve a heroic, subversive, and history based ending, and laid out the three possible ways that it could end: 1. Jon and Dany win and live happily ever after. (heroic) 2. Someone else is on the throne. (subversive) 3. Gendry, Phillip Plumm, or some other person of in-universe historical legitimacy ascending to the throne. (historical) But I thought that these were all far too simple. (Plus, if D&D were searching for a subversive ending, wouldn't they just have the Night King wipe out all of humanity?) Why can't all three of these goals be achieved? The author made some valid points about how the universe building of ASOIAF is one of the reasons that people have become so obsessed with it. Why can't that history be tied in together with a heroic yet genre-subverting ending? I've long thought that the ending would be quite straightforward, and nothing that happened this season has changed my view on that. The Night King must be defeated, and Dany must ascend to power and eventually "break the wheel". This is like the heroic ending that wouldn't be subversive at all, except the show has been spoon feeding us the Jon-Dany happily ever after ending. By continuing to push this, anything other than these two on the throne together will be seen as something subversive. For the heroic part, that could be Jon sacrificing himself for Dany and the realm to kill the NK. And historical? The rules of succession that Tyrion pointed out in episode 6 and the tomes of information on Targ lineages and family history that GRRM has created would come into play as Dany re-institutes a Targaryen dynasty on the throne. I don't think the "breaking the wheel" will lead to a democracy, I think it will be restoring the Targaryen wheel. So after all this rambling, I guess what I'm asking: Wouldn't Jon jumping off Rhaegal and killing the Viserion-riding-Night King in a last minute way to save Dany (who is carrying his heir) but Jon actually dying in the process be an ending that successfully satisfies all three of the different types of endings? And, isn't this the type of bittersweet ending that GRRM wants? I'm imagining a dramatic scene where Dany/Drogon dive in a last minute attempt to catch Jon, but they'll be unsuccessful. Seems right up his alley, and it's an ending that won't be cheesy or too unpredictable.
  4. This is what I'm thinking. I can't see the siege lasting a long time at all, not enough time left in this season for BF to get to the Battle of Bastards.
  5. wasn't something that they were actively hiding, i mean we got a scene of it in the trailer for the season.
  6. Must be a reference to Dany. Can't figure out who her third bloodrider will be. Walter Frey must be the old foe. I hope that Benjen isn't Coldhands.
  7. Wow. What an episode. Bran's revelations are monumental.
  8. It's pretty obvious that this is all a ploy to get Ramsay to trust them and then they'll infiltrate from inside Winterfell. And during the Battle of Winterfell they'll turn and take down the Karstarks and the Boltons.
  9. I've been going back and forth on this. I've always pictured Ned's "now it ends" as being somber and regretful, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that Ned was still a young man at this point, not the wise middle aged man who has seen everything. He fought a war and saw some terrible things, and was forced to grow up quickly after what happened with his father, brother, and marriage to Catelyn. But if he knows his sister is in that tower, he's probably eager to get up there and save her. Maybe he was sad about what he knew he needed to do, but at the same time he had to be riding a serious adrenaline rush at this point. As for the "Hollywoodistic version" of Dayne wielding two swords, that's probably the easiest way for the TV watchers to understand how good of a swordsman he was. Those people who haven't been hearing about his legendary status for many books will have to make the judgments quickly. A 7 vs 3 battle is going to look like a sure thing to the watchers, but the second Dayne pulls out two great swords and lops off a couple of heads in the first few seconds, the outcome won't seem so definite.
  10. How I see it is that if Jon is excused from his vows, he is no longer the Lord Commander and he will not be the one to swing the sword. Jon executing these men and then saying, "yeah by the way I'm not a man of the Night's Watch anymore, who is the new LC" wouldn't make much sense. I imagine that there will be a quick and informal promotion of a new Lord Commander who may look to Jon for guidance on the punishment of the mutineers, but will ultimately be the one who has to decide their fate. Edd is the only one who makes sense to take over.
  11. I can't see the Oathbreaker being anyone except for Jon.
  12. At this point, anybody but Rickon will be a huge surprise. I'll be interested to see if they kill Shaggydog.
  13. The Sand Snakes are the worst actresses of all time. Makes me cringe every time they speak.
  14. I thought the exact same thing. I think that you are correct, and World is wrong
  15. Well. That episode was awesome. It featured 3 of the best kills in the series (hammer to the skull, chain turning wildlings to mist on the wall, and my favorite, the giant's arrow launching a nights watch member from the top of the wall and pinning him to castle black on the south side). All in all i thought it was a great episode. i totally understand having Jon and Ygritte come face to face for the show. No complaints at all, other than only one episode left.