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  1. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    And your arguments about fAegon's inevitable hatcing is not? Even though there is no indication whatsoever in the books for that. You shoehorn Egg's hatching into fAegon's story. Many people (including me) refer to him as fAegon because we think he is not the person he claims to be. And you find a way out of this with saying: "Him not being a real Targaryen doesn't mean he won't be a real dragon". I believe eventually he will met with his demise. I don't want this to happen mind you. I just think that's what's going to happen. And that's my opinion. Why so salty?
  2. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    I am talking about political support. Smallfolk's support is nothing. They cheer you when their lord told them so and carve you bloody when their lord said so. By Lannisters yes after this point I don't think they take him seriously. By Boltons no but I think they take him seriously but not because of Stannis' power but because Roose is not sure of his own supporters. Conquer with what. What is conquering? If politically important people doesn't support you, you can't hold power. Otherwise Aegon the Conqueror would've done with Dorne in first try. This part is subjective man believe what you want to believe. My entire point is I don't see what you see. You don't have to convince me.
  3. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    Balon, Robb, Joffrey had the support of their regions. Joffrey didn't had the support of smallfolk but Westerlands and Lords of Crownlands supported him. I didn't say fAegon has to have all of the Lords but he needs a significant support in order to be taken seriously. And Stannis is a king only in name. I am saying this as fan of Stannis but we need to call a spade a spade. He already think himself as a dragon. And I don't know if you noticed but those who think themselves as dragons are usually the wrong ones. "Daenerys is Prince Rhaegar's sister, but I am Rhaegar's son. I am the only dragon you need."
  4. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    No. All we can deduce from that vision that he is celebrated. He may be celebrated as saviour of the city by the smallfolk due to contempt towards Lannisters but what about the rest of the realm he claims as his kingdom. It's a magic induced vision we can't take it more than what it is. It doesn't mean he will be acknowledged by the Lords of the Westeros.
  5. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    In order to count these thing as parallels they have to happen first. Wearing a white cloak doesn't make someone a KG especially when the kingship of the person who bestowed that honour is just a mere claim. And taking a one city doesn't make someone a king. His subjects should proclaim him as their king and acknowledge him as their liege.
  6. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    Not to be pedantic but it's not a theory it's a speculation. A theory should have basis on the text. JonCon has no problem with House Targaryen. That's why he feels obliged to help his (alleged) son. What Wihte Sword? Is fAegon trained by a Kingsguard? I missed that part. He is not a King.
  7. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    How do you know this? Is it just a speculation or are there reasons (quotes, visions, foreshadowing) for it? What parrallels? I don't see any.
  8. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    Problem with your interpretation of fAegon is an actual dragon waiting to hatch is not accurate in my opinion. A cloth dragon sways on poles amidst a cheering crowd does not strike me as someone trying to brake free from his strings at all. There is no struggle in that depiction. First who provides these visions. To Dany the Undying Ones, to Mel R'hllor, to Jojen Bloodraven, the Old Gods, CotF but on meta level it's GRRM himself. So if he wanted to convey the message fAegon/Young Griff is an actual dragon trying to become a man of his own will he would have choose a different representation than a cloth dragon sways on poles amidst a cheering crowd. On top of my head for example a caged dragon trying to break free. That was my original objection. Quote on your OP and the later examples you gave are all have clear connections about their subject. Egg stops being a frightened kid and acts like a Prince of the realm --> an egg hatches and a dragon is born.
  9. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    I disagree. Just being a Valyrian descendant is not enough for being a dragon. In prophesies and such dragon represents strong willed Targaryen or other Valyrian descendants. Also Jon is half Stark.
  10. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    Are you doing that on purpose or did you misunderstood me? I am saying he is not a real dragon at all. Read my previous response with a bit more care please. Imposter part is my claim going through a phase is yours. I am not saying he is going through a phase at all.
  11. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    All the examples you gave actually supports my view. All depictions have clear connection to characters they portray. An actual egg represents Aegon V whose moniker is Egg, Jon is being Lyanna's son and the LC of the Watch depicted as a winter rose growing from a wall of ice, Mel saw Jon as a switcheroo because Jon is part Stark (Wolf), Bran is able to skinchange to a raven so he is a winged wolf, Mel saw him as a boy with a wolf face beacuse to Mel he is a Stark. You see these prophetic visions also about the receiver of these visions. That's why Mel and Jojen and Dany saw Bran and Jon differently. It is indeed all relevant but relevant to receiver not subject. Now given all that which interpretation of Dany's visionof the mummer's dragon at the HotU makes more sense: an imposter or someone going through a phase.
  12. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    Nope. A dragon egg still a dragon egg but a cloth dragon has nothing to do with a real dragon.
  13. Wolf of The Wall

    Does this Mummer's Dragon has us all fooled?

    I can't see the conneciton between the quote and fAegeon really. Aegon's (Egg's) metaphor represent him maturing and beacoming the dragon he always was. It's not a transformation like you suggest in the case of fAegon.
  14. Wolf of The Wall

    Why was neither Viserys nor Daenerys trained in arms?

    For Viserys. By whom? He was too young during his father's reign to be trained in arms and after they escaped when he is a teen he was too busy with staying alive. And for Daenerys, it's not even a possibility. She was a newborn when they escaped and even after all this time still she is too young and women in the World of ASOIaF aren't trained in arms. Arya's sword exercises are disguised as dancing classes. There are exeptions of course but not much.
  15. Wolf of The Wall

    Defiance of Duskendale: Who else could have done it?

    What do you mean? Barristan's mission impossible or the uprising of House Darklyn and House Hollard.
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