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  1. SirArthur

    Who might George be talking about here?

    Ehhhh ... "Figur" is female and thus the gender of the character is never specified.
  2. So ... if you use these words .... there is at least another one ? Is he reborn, false or something else ?
  3. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    My problem with the Stark afterlife is the same as with king's blood: who decides who has it and who not ? As a reminder, only the Lords have statues and only the statues have swords on them. There is no general protection for every male Stark with a bloodline to the Stark kings of old. The Karstarks may even be unprotected.
  4. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    This is the part of the perception I never get. Weirwood Robb 2.0 is a very creepy possibility. I certainly wouldn't call it slap, as he already sat Bran on a Weirwood throne and the Winterfell throne. edit: It's almost like there are three thrones: one weirwood throne of earth and water, one Iron throne of Iron and bronze and one of ice and fire.
  5. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-game-of-thrones-writers-had-to-answer-this-trick-question-2015-4 Wait a moment. According to D&D's interpretation Rhaegar and Lyanna is a shocking answer ? Wtf is going on ? It is a romantic option in their interpretation.
  6. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    A couple of ships were enough to harass the North and ultimately take Winterfell.
  7. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    The sisters storm was at the start of the rebellion, even before Bells. Suggesting Dany is roughly 2 years older.
  8. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    I guess it just happened like so many military decisions during the rebellion are suspicious from an outside point of view. I'm just saying from a military point of view the Targaryens did not walk the walk to see if the rebels could really defeat them. Aerys just gave up, unable to move. While movement is a core principle of military engagement. If you can't win, you retreat. The Targaryen army at the Trident also just gave up. I guess giving up is a thing in Planetos. One would think that honor would keep them fighting but even that isn't the case.
  9. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    the royal fleet including Velarion and Targaryen ships and the Redwyne fleet.
  10. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    As I said before, the war wasn't lost after the battle of the Trident. This even confirms that there were 2 full navies operating in the area. They could have easily reinforced King's Landing within the 2 weeks.
  11. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    To which I reply the ships were anchored and smashed against the coast. This may be terrible on the high sea or to an incoming ship capsizing on the Cornwall coast (let's stay in England). But anchored implies the crew has a high chance to be on land.
  12. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    A while ago I talked about the size of the Targaryen fleet at Dragonstone (if it existed at all)and assumed it with 5000 man. This is what I have found out so far: 1. there was a fleet according to the myths Dany was told She had been born on Dragonstone nine moons after their flight, while a raging summer storm threatened to rip the island fastness apart. They said that storm was terrible. The Targaryen fleet was smashed while it lay at anchor, and huge stone blocks were ripped from the parapets and sent hurtling into the wild waters of the narrow sea. Her mother had died birthing her, and for that her brother Viserys had never forgiven her. 2. about fleet sizes: "In the Free Cities, there are ships by the thousand," Dany told him, as she had told him before. "Wooden horses with a hundred legs, that fly across the sea on wings full of wind." A Game of Thrones - Daenerys VI He sang of Jonquil and Florian, of Prince Aemon the Dragonknight and his love for his brother's queen, of Nymeria's ten thousand ships. - A Clash of Kings - Sansa VI Lord Gylbert began to speak. He told of a wondrous land beyond the Sunset Sea, a land without winter or want, where death had no dominion. "Make me your king, and I shall lead you there," he cried. "We will build ten thousand ships as Nymeria once did and take sail with all our people to the land beyond the sunset. There every man shall be a king and every wife a queen." A Feast for Crows - The Drowned Man "A thousand ships?" Ser Harys Swyft was wheezing. "Surely not. No lord commands a thousand ships." A Feast for Crows - Cersei VII "Can we walk across the waves, ser?" asked Lysono Maar. "I tell you again, we cannot reach the silver queen by sea. I slipped into Volantis myself, posing as a trader, to learn how many ships might be available to us. The harbor teems with galleys, cogs, and carracks of every sort and size, yet even so I soon found myself consorting with smugglers and pirates. We have ten thousand men in the company, as I am sure Lord Connington remembers from his years of service with us. Five hundred knights, each with three horses. Five hundred squires, with one mount apiece. And elephants, we must not forget the elephants. A pirate ship will not suffice. We would need a pirate fleet … and even if we found one, the word has come back from Slaver's Bay that Meereen has been closed off by blockade." A Dance with Dragons - The Lost Lord Out on the river, Bold Wind unshipped her oars and glided downstream in the wake of Seaswift. Last came King Robert's Hammer, the might of the royal fleet. . . or at least that portion that had not fled to Dragonstone last year with Stannis. Tyrion had chosen the ships with care, avoiding any whose captains might be of doubtful loyalty, according to Varys . . . but as Varys himself was of doubtful loyalty, a certain amount of apprehension remained. I rely too much on Varys, he reflected. I need my own informers. Not that I'd trust them either. Trust would get you killed. A Clash of Kings - Tyrion IX With four times as many ships as the boy king, Ser Imry saw no need for caution or deceptive tactics. He had organized the fleet into ten lines of battle, each of twenty ships. The first two lines would sweep up the river to engage and destroy Joffrey's little fleet, or "the boy's toys" as Ser Imry dubbed them, to the mirth of his lordly captains. Those that followed would land companies of archers and spearmen beneath the city walls, and only then join the fight on the river. The smaller, slower ships to the rear would ferry over the main part of Stannis's host from the south bank, protected by Salladhor Saan and his Lyseni, who would stand out in the bay in case the Lannisters had other ships hidden up along the coast, poised to sweep down on their rear. A Clash of Kings - Davos III 3. about men to ship ratios "How would the queen suggest they accomplish that, without sufficient ships?" asked Ser Loras. "Willas and Garlan can raise ten thousand men within a fortnight and twice that in a moon's turn, but they cannot walk on water, Your Grace." A Feast for Crows - Cersei VII (regarding the thousand ships of the Iron Fleet) My observations: - the Arbor has the largest "Lordling fleet" - no Lord has a thousand ships, that may include "Lord" Euron. The quote really works in both ways, arguing against his ship size and against a possible counter. - a general ship to men ratio for all types of ships may be 100 - Even the relative "small" invasion of Connington needs a (pirate) fleet to support. - A large part of the royal fleet fled to Stannis, Stannis had 200 large combat ships and a lot of smaller "cargo" ships - a thousand ships is a possibility for rich city states though. (And I count Oldtown towards it) My conclusions: - The Baratheon royal fleet is only 15 years old, that is not the lifespan of a wooden warship. The Targaryen fleet can include ships from a much larger timespan - there is no knowledge about the size of a royal fleet, it is clear that it could "in theory" have a thousand ships, a more grounded calculation may include 100 warships and 400 other ships from the crownlands. - I tend to go the Feather way of the mirror for reasons of simplicity and conclude that Stannis fleet is the fleet size of the royal fleet, which included 4600 transported infantry. - Overall I still think my guess of 5000 sailors is very possible and very grounded. If I just assume 100 warships in the royal fleet (which is the size of the Baratheon royal fleet) and downsize the sailors to 100 per ships (they are larger warships though, the King Robert's hammer has 400 oars), I would come to 10.000 men. So my conclusion, that a storm that grounded the royal fleet, would have left a sizeable defence force at Dragonstone, still stands. We know that the attack:defence ratio for castles is 4:1 - 6:1. So Stannis should need at least 20k men upwards (for a larger army) to take a defended Dragonstone. So either there was never a fleet at Dragonstone and the royal fleet vanished or something else must have happened. Even if everyone just gave up, the men would still be stranded on Dragonstone.
  13. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    I tend to believe that Selyse was first in GRRM's outlines and then he realized that she needed some "fire" in her lonely life. Thus Melisandre was born. Much like Thoros is a proxy for his drinking buddy Robert, Melisandre may well be a misunderstood proxy for Selyse. And then Melisandre started growing and growing. So there may not be an answer why Melisandre is there. Or any details to the service time Thoros has left before he returns to Myr to get a new position.
  14. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    I would throw this out the window. First we know that the long Night was a period in the midst of a very long winter. That means there is a winter before and after the Long Night. And then we know where this winter ended: somewhere in the Reach before Oldtown. At this point there is no conclusion based on the legends of old that the end TM is nigh for all of Westeros or even Planetos.
  15. SirArthur

    Heresy 223 and where we go from here

    Just to underline this "Your god can keep his grace," said Lord Stannis, who did not share his wife's fervent new faith. "It's swords I need, not blessings. Do you have an army hidden somewhere that you've not told me of?" There was no affection in his tone. Stannis had always been uncomfortable around women, even his own wife. When he had gone to King's Landing to sit on Robert's council, he had left Selyse on Dragonstone with their daughter. His letters had been few, his visits fewer; he did his duty in the marriage bed once or twice a year, but took no joy in it, and the sons he had once hoped for had never come.
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