The Sunland Lord

Yes for everything you wrote, especially point two. Nah, this was just a nonsense show, there really isn't need to analyze why Sansa and Bran didn't try harder to put him on the throne instead of merely sending him to the Wall again. Did they want to grab power? Probably no and yes at the same time, there aren't really any answers, so suit yourself and interpret it however you please.

I was very happy to see him and Sweetrobin. I was wondering where they were. At first, when he started his harangue, I was listening seriously and thought that he would, as a man who has the right to vote, support someone else. But I laughed so hard when I realized he is making a claim for himself. Still one of my favourite minor characters. Very glad he survived.

I disagree. Octavian was a harsh man, and not likeable, but in no way he would've burned thousands of people needlessly. If he is close to anyone in GoT, it certainly is more Jon than Dany. Dany resembled more Cleopatra in her last years- pressing claims in the Roman Republic/7 kingdoms which she didn't have any business to press. Augustus was Caesar's heir, not Cleopatra's son, just like Jon was heir to the Iron Throne, not Dany. Maybe this is a better comparison. Alexander destroyed Thebes to the ground and put the inhabitants to the sword and enslaved the rest. But he did this early in his career, so the Greeks were afraid of him and eventually joined him conquering Asia and Africa, after some verbal resistance here and there. She did it in the end-after years of trying to conquer with less civilian victims.

Who the hell is Grey Worm to have a say in matters of ruling of the Seven Kingdoms, and the audacity to decide for Jon freaking Snow's fate? This is something that really pissed me off.

Nothing at all.

I think yes. GRRM loves the pattern of a fight after the main antagonist is beaten. He was heavily influenced by Tolkien, so you can see how Thorin, after defeatimg Smaug, went opsessed with the gold and started a war because he didn't want to share it. In real history, we've had several civil wars in old Rome, and in the end, Augustus and Antony, having split the world as they knew it in half, both wanted the whole world for themselves, resulting in another civil war. Like it or not, greed, and insanity which follows it, is in the human nature. Not that everyone has it in his nature. But I can see It being stronger than Dany in Martin's story as well.

Yeah, like it or not, I don't see Daenerys in Martin's story not going totally mad after this. One can complain about how fast it was done, or the way it was done in the show, but I'm positive this is her ending.

We can always agree to disagree.

The Red Wedding is a war crime and a mass murder. Tywin gave the orders and Roose is a perpetrator.

They started slaughtering the Lannister army, and then their blood got up. This happens when you can't keep the men in order.

Not bad. Qyburn destroyed by the monster he created.

I agree. I have to retreat and say that surely Tywin would not have burnt King's Landing for sport like she did. This is her in the show now, and we should perceive her as she is here. Books are different story.

Robert, Ned, Robb Stark, Jon Snow, Brienne were/are killers, this is the society these people live in, they have to do it, I mean you can say it's an obligation to kill. What Daenerys is, is a mass murderer and war criminal. Now in the same basket with Aerys, Tywin, Roose, Ramsay, Euron, etc.

"The rains on Cast....erly Rock". Should've known that was a pun and foreshadowing.

Tyrion is still alive. Btw if you play "Rains of Castamere" now, who do you think is designed for?

Roose is worse. Because Tywin is reactive in cruelty, but Roose is proactive. He murdered smallfolk which rebuilt Winterfell to no purpose. That's Maegor level of evil.

Worst scene ever. Idiotic writing.

Maybe a plot convenience, to prepare the terrain for Dany's death. Because if she dies taking King's Landing, the rest will declare for Jon only since there'll be no one else better suited to rule other than any survivers of the team Psychos. Or, a pretext to another civil war in the last episode, Jon vs. Daenerys. Since, Dany will be the mad queen who burned KL taking it (I don't see how KL won't get burned and sacked in any outcome at this point, I'm 100% sure it's toast) and Jon will be the best man to oppose her, and he has a better claim. Basically, what Varys was saying to Tyrion. As for Jaime and Cersei. Well, maybe they'll go out in an Antony & Cleopatra style, or, Jaime will kill her and not surviving after. But I'd put my money on them both dying next episode.

What an abomination of a show. I have no words. I don't know how did I manage to watch so far after I read the books. I'll just numbly see what happens in next two weeks and be done with it. For me, this was the worst episode ever in the show, and that says something. -Jon abandoning Ghost in such a fashion. -Tyrion doesn't know his sister. Yet. -Zero warfare knowledge by the creators. Ask an expert for once, if you have no clue about it. -Daenerys riding with two dragons just for the sake of the plot. -Wildlings going back to beyond the Wall after eight years of trying to integrate in the Seven Kingdoms. Utter nonsense, out of character, bad writing. Terrible.

His kill count is impressive. His wish to be a hero killed him. The stain of the Turncloak was that much a heavy burden for him to wear, he did what he thought would remove that stain. I think he accomplished it, and maybe the few seconds he stole of the NK's time bought just enough time for Bran and Arya.

Cersei get eaten alive by Nymeria, and then the she-pup takes the Cerseidump in a river. This and nothing less will make me happy.

Great comment. Bravo.

Is Brussels a more believable option to be the de facto seat of the EU besides having cities like Paris, Berlin, Rome, etc.? Yet it is. And Winterfell is not some random place, it's glorious, magical and once a royal castle. As for Sansa or Arya: Sansa is more unlikely than Arya, but Arya is possible IMO. Stranger things happened than that.

I think Jon will end up as a king of Westeros with a seat in Winterfell. The Capital will be moved. It was done in real history. His wife-one of Daenerys, Arya, or Sansa.

So the Umbers are officialy extinct in the show.