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  1. Ser Dips A lot

    My Trial Of Seven

    It’s funny you say that about Balon Swann, I actually wanted to put him on Team 2 and almost did, but there was too much competition. Perhaps putting him in instead of Robar Royce would’ve been more feasible since we’ve actually seen him fight and have an idea what he’s capable of; would’ve made a more predictable fight. Seems like his weapon of choice is the morning star. That’s unique for a kingsguard I believe, I’ve wondered why that’s his primary weapon. A combination of brunt-force and puncturing attack, its deadly in the right hands but why choose it over a sword? I think it’s effective against most opponents but fighting a heavily armored fighter, especially a large one like Gregor, I’d think you’d want a sword to slash and thrust into the openings of the plate. Would be crazy to have a trial of 7 featuring almost all of the medieval weapons: longswords, greatswords, warhammer( it says Sandor wields one), spear, and a mace/morning star. And you’re take on Hotah is good too, he probably has had some serious training like the unsullied, but more specified in defense as a bodyguard like you said. He must be a very calculating fighter like Bronn is, but far more deadly. Could see him fighting Darkstar if he gets Dawn, that would be an epic duel. The longaxe is a badass weapon, I always wonder why no one in Westeros prefers pole arms. All the famous knights are noted as swordsman; no one is ever wielding halberds or longaxes for that matter. I think it’s a serious advantage to have that reach.
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    My Trial Of Seven

    I don’t think too highly of Areo Hotah, to be honest. He’s big and strong, yes, but what exactly has he done? I know the same could be said about Robar, but I think being labeled as a “very good swordsman” and bearing the last name Royce means something. I mean, Loras did kill him in a rage, but I think that was a fluke. Like Brienne beating Jaime; the circumstances didn’t quite make it fair and weren’t typical. But that is life, the best man doesn’t always win. Robar, to me, seems like his generations Jaime Lannister, as I’ve heard people on these forums say. And he died without the chance to make a name for himself. Hotah is old and seasoned, with no real accolades still. Killing Arys Oakheart wasn’t a big feat. He just may end up fighting someone formidable before his time comes, perhaps Victarion or Darkstar. Any thoughts on who he might be matched up against in the remainder of the series?
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    How should Robb have gotten his sisters back?

    I agree that Jaime for Sansa is not a good trade. At this point, Robb should continue his campaign and invade the Westerlands, take Casterly Rock, and then settle for terms. With the Lannister keep in his control, a sizeable force, an intact Lannister granary, and a valuable hostage in Jaime, Robb should be sitting pretty. Don’t marry Jeyne Westerling and get murdered at a wedding, and you’re on track to get them back eventually, regardless of what you do strategically, granted you don’t lose any major battles. I also agree naming yourself King in the North was foolish, driving a wedge between Robb and Stannis. Shoulda, woulda, coulda kinda thing...Robb fucked up.
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    My Trial Of Seven

    I’d say I atleast put a solid hour into this. I wanted the teams to be somewhat realistic, in respect to this actually happening, so I went with Team 1 being the Westerlands/Reach alliance and Team 2 as the Vale/North/Stormlands/Dorne alliance plus one Sandor Clegane. I wanted to make it an even match, so I tweaked and fine tuned the fighters more than once, replacing Arys Oakheart with Lyle Crakehall on Team 1 at the last minute. I thought that made it even, and it really could go either way at that. I imagine this could be a quick fight, given how everyone is so deadly in their own right, or it might go the distance, lasting an hour or more. What do you think? Also, I agree with your breakdowns of the fighters, Team 1 for the individual prowess and Team 2 for more experience.
  5. In the wiki’s description of Jaime, it states “He is muscular and extremely strong, musing at one point that he could only think of a few men in the Seven Kingdoms stronger than him. “ In this description, Does being “extremely strong” refer to his literal physical strength or his martial abilities? To me it’s describing literal physical strength, although he is a gifted swordsman too. Jaime is noted as extremely strong right after it’s stating that he’s muscular, implying that he’s extremely strong with his body; Jaime is a pound for pound badass. And in addition to having freakish strength for his size and just in general apparently, he speculates only a few men ( Greatjon, Strongboar, etc.) could match him. How big is Jaime Lannister? I picture Jaime in the range of 6’2-6’3 tall and probably 200-220 pounds. He’s gotta be the pound for pound strongest man in Westeros, I’m certain. He’s not that big of a guy relatively speaking, and he’s apparently “strong” enough to match the 7 footers who also outweigh him and have inhuman strength. Any thoughts on Jaime’s size and actual strength?
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    My Trial Of Seven

    Lyle Crakehall is “big and strong”. Jaime considers him one of the strongest people in Westeros when thinking of who could match him in a fight. In the series, he tells Jaime that after the fall of Riverrun, he intends to head back to Darry to find and kill Sandor Clegane. Perhaps he is foolish, but he thinks himself capable of killing The Hound apparently. I think Bronn and Loras are the weak links for Team 1. Brienne and old Barristan are probably the two weaker fighters on Team 2, not too sure about Lyn Corbray, however. The team is only as strong as it’s weakest link, usually. The outcome of this fight will depend on the initial matchups I guess and who kills who first.
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    My Trial Of Seven

    Maybe the presence of Garlan, Jaime, and Gregor together is just too much. I feel like Team 1 has the best combo of 3 fighters but Team 2 has the better 7. What leads you to favor Team 1?
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    My Trial Of Seven

    Who wins this Trial of Seven: Team 1- 1. Garlan Tyrell 2. Loras Tyrell 3. The Mountain 4. Randyl Tarly (Heartsbane) 5. Jaime Lannister 6. Bronn 7. Lyle Crakehall Team 2- 1. Sandor Clegane 2. Robar Royce 3. Oberyn Martell 4. Barristan Selmy 5. Brienne of Tarth 6. Lyn Corbray (Lady Forlorn) 7. Greatjon Umber This Trial of Seven will be fought on foot. It will take place on an open field at the beginning of asoiaf, before the War of the Five Kings. Fight to the death. Who wins? I feel like I potentially stacked Team 1 but after second thought, I think this one is coming down to the last man. We haven’t seen all of these characters fight so there is some margin for speculation, as always, on what several of these guys are capabale of. Team 2 is my favorite; Sandor is the last man standing.
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    Ranking the best warriors at the start of asoiaf

    I agree with you on the your idea of strength and then the Greatjon. “Strength” to me isn’t just brute dumbass strength that hodor has; its more refined to fighting specifically, as you said. And Greatjon is a beast, definetly solidifies his place in the top 5. Imagine him wielding Ice, might be unstoppable. Seriously I think he’d be fucking nasty in battle with a Valyrian steel greatsword , especially in full plate or some good steel armor. And im also dissappointed in the Starks we’ve gotten stuck with. We should’ve had a Cregan or Theon Stark as the protagonist. Well said
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    Ranking the best warriors at the start of asoiaf

    Yes I did specifically state “best warriors” because I don’t necessarily care about who can do what with a sword; being a good duelist in a fencing-like style of combat or specialist in tourneys is not what I wanted this thread to pertain to. I’m talking “warrior” because Victarion wields an axe, Oberyn wields an 8-foot spear, and some of these knights, including Royce, may prefer maces and morning stars. I didn’t want to narrow it down to just swordsmen. And Jorah, albeit a proven warrior and a likeable one at that, doesn’t belong in the top 10. Not in my opinion. If he ever did, it would be when he was in his prime.
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    What if Denys Arryn survives?

    I believe Stannis was Master of Ships, if that’s what you meant. Not Law. But anyways, I know I did make some assumptions here, as it is all hypothetical. But your point is made and I agree that unless having been informed on the affairs at court by Jon Arryn, Denys would have very little reason to support Stannis. And you’re right, Robb did drive a wedge between him and Stannis by crowning himself. A foolish move indeed if you ask me. From a tactical standpoint, Robb should have declared for Stannis and formed an alliance there, no doubt. But after hearing your take on this, it is very logical to say that the Vale may still have remainded neutral, even with Denys calling the shots. Would’ve been cool though to see Tywin’s face when he hears about The Knights of the Vale entering the War, fighting for Robb or Stannis.
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    Ranking the best warriors at the start of asoiaf

    I ranked my top 10 fighters based off several factors. Just not having seen someone fight doesn’t mean I can’t speculate on their abilities, and that’s what this was, a speculation. And yes, we have seen Yohn Royce or atleast heard about him beating Thoros of Myr with a common mace, in a melee. And beating Eddard in spar, not that that says much. He’s the same height as the Hound. He has fathered and trained 2 possibly 3 sons ( don’t know much about Andar, the oldest) that have all been respectable. Robar was referred to as “very good”. You’re telling me you’re gonna put Brienne above Royce just because she’s beat a bunch of nobody knights at Renly’s camp and triumphed over a bunch of rag tag mercenaries who’s only talent is brutalizing peasants? And chivalrous means nothing in regards to prowess; it’s more of a moral code that knights can choose to live by. Lyn Corbray finished off a wounded Kingsguard and has one many duels. According to LF, who has no reason to lie about this, he’s not one to fuck with.
  13. Rank the top warriors at the beginning of The War of the Five Kings. Here’s mine: 1. Jaime Lannister 2. Sandor Clegane 3. Oberyn Martell 4. Gregor Clegane 5. Greatjon Umber 6. Bronze Yohn 7. Lyn Corbray 8. Garlan Tyrell 9. Barristan Selmy 10. Victorian Greyjoy/Andrik Unsmiling Jaime is undisputed here, proclaimed by Martin as one of the greatest warriors in Westeros history. In his prime. Sandor should be second. Might catch shit for Oberyn being 3 but I think he’s underrated and he proved it later on. Gregor is a freak, could easily kill anyone on the list with a single strike, near invincible in full plate. Greatjon and Bronze Yohn are tough to speculate on but I like them at 5 and 6. Lyn Corbray is reputable enough and has Valyrian steel. Garlan is known as a very good swordsman, in his prime, and humble about it. Barristan, in his prime, ranks higher than everyone on this list but he’s old now. Victarion/Andrik were tough for me, had to group them together because I only wanted a top 10, and I could’ve and almost did put them in the middle with Bronze Yohn and Greatjon. I’m leaving out the fan favorites Bronn, Loras, Jon, and Brienne because I don’t see them killing anyone on this list under typical circumstances. Maybe I’m disrespecting Brienne but I don’t know. There’s just not enough info on everyone listed so this is my speculation.
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    What if Denys Arryn survives?

    Alright the “line of descent does not decide who is the rightful heir part” had me thrown off for a second but I think I understand what you’re trying to say. Dying Robert did not know that his son was in fact Jaime’s basterd, so Ned wrote “rightful heir” instead. I’m trying to look at this from a Denys’ perspective and not my own, having read the series and knowing the truth of the matter behind Jaime and Cersei’s incest, I understand that it may look like a convenient coincidence for Stannis to some. But with that said, Denys had fought with Ned and Stannis, and would had known them both for a long time at this point. Surely he would know Ned, albeit a certified political idiot as you said, is honorable and loyal to Robert beyond question. That loyalty led him to choose the “rightful heir” to succeed Robert. That “rightful heir” happened to fit the “power hungry uncle” persona quite well and I understand your point there. But the truth of the matter is, Joffrey is a basterd and Ned had absolute certainty in that. Lacking certain tangible evidence and political support, his case for Stannis as heir led to his so called treason and death. If I’m Denys, I don’t think I’d so easily forget that Ned, deemed traitor or not, is a Stark, not a Lannister. Starks don’t sack King’s Landing and order the rape and murder of innocent women and children. Lannisters do. And surely Denys would know that Joffrey at this point, basterd or not, is a puppet of the Lannisters. Ned was Robert’s friend. Denys would know that. Ned Stark doesn’t have any ulterior motives or benefits in crowing Stannis, Denys would see that. It was the honorable course of action, knowing what he knew, and it’s a pity no one else did. Unless Denys is a complete idiot, he should believe Stannis’ letter. What he decides to do with that knowledge is another story indeed. I think he’d fight for Jon Arryn’s political ally, the one true king, Stannis.
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    What if Denys Arryn survives?

    Wouldn’t you think having honor and a good morale compass would lead you to declare for the true King, the king who, by all laws of Westeros, inherits the Iron Throne? Ned said Stannis is the heir and risked his life for it, and Ned is arguably the most honorable and morally good man in the series. Robb is indeed fighting a just cause but Stannis is fighting for the same thing as the undoubtedly rightful king.
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