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  1. PrinceoftheTides

    How powerful are the Royces?

    I agree with Bernie, House Bolton seems the only one that actually mananged to challenge the Stark in the past, similarly to how House Reyne acted in the Westerlands. The Manderlys are indeed richer and commands more horsemen, but, in my opinion, Boltons still are among the strongest northern houses. Bear in mind that Ramsay could bring at the Battle of Winterfell 600 Dreadfort men, the same number Ser Rodrick gathered with Winterfell garrison and nearby fortresses. And this while they were still fighiting in the Hornwood. Also, to come up with a plan to try to usurp your liege station you actually have to be already in a certain position, I mean having leverage or some assets to play your way out if your plan fail. The fact that house Bolton, or most of the northern houses are not quoted in F&B or Princess and the Queen and Rogue Prince I think is more related to the focus on King's Landing's perspective the stories have. House Dustin and Manderly are indeed relevant, but also the closest to the south and more likely to have contacts or being or some relevance in fighting (as we saw in the Dance).
  2. Uhm difficult to say.. I would probably chose to be at the Crag before its fall, to tell Robb to keep himself out of the battle and his pants on (because actually the Freys betrayal was a consequence of Robb's behaviour)
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    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Actually I do not think that generally the nobles houses were bothered at all by Aerys behaviour. His 'amusements' were confined to the Red Keep and prisoners, but no concern at all for the general picture. Also we didn't have description of a kingdom (or even the capital) becoming increasingly poor or destroyed by his madness, a thing that we got for the rule of Maegor and Rhaenyra (and possibly also Baelor and Aevon IV). The very same fact that Brandon went to the king to accuse Rhaegar demonstrate that the king was still considered somehow reliable by the lords in my opinion and we have to consider that this is AFTER he showed himself at the Harrenal tourney with all his paranoia and unfit appearance (basically his condition/madness was well known). It has to be pointed out that even in the rebelling regions (Stormlands, Riverlands, Vale) there were Targaryen loyalists such as Connington, Cafferen, Fell, Grandison, Grafton, Ryger, Darry, Goodbrok and Mooton. For the rest I agree with the considerations about rhaegar
  4. PrinceoftheTides

    How powerful are the Royces?

    I agree that the Royces are, by far, the most powerful house in the Vale after the Arryn. Also the lord declarants are estimated to be able to call up to twenty thousand men (according to Littlefinger), considering the situazion of the other houses participating (for example the Waynwoods have problems with debts), it is likely that they contribute with 5-6000 men. In my opinion the strongest houses (besides the overlords) are: North: Bolton and Manderly Iron Islands: Harlaw by far Vale: Royce Westerlands, none, house Reyne used to be the most powerful vassals, but after their destruction it seems that all the other major houses are more or less the same (and none could seriously represent a challenge for the Lannisters) Riverlands: Frey, Blackwood, Vance (actually it was stated in F&B that the Tullys were not the most powerful house in the Trident, so probably those houses are more powerful than their overlords) Reach: Hightower, then (at distance) Florent Stormlands: Swann Crownlands: Velaryon by far Dorne: Yronwood by far
  5. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    I don't think Viserys was an impostor, King Aegon and the rest of the court recognized him at once (at least as far as it is written in F&B) when Alyn Velaryon brought him back. The book also provide a detailed history for his period in captivity, and all the passage of property he was subject to being a prisoner. That would be unlikely to be known in case of an impostor, since all the passages in property could easily backtracked imho. Actually the habit of Targayen to use the same names create some confusion for the non-kings (since they do not have the number). Morning was the dragon bonded with Rhaena, daughter of Daemon (brother of Viserys I, the one that rode Caraxes) and Laena Velaryon, twin sister to Baela (that rode Moondancer and later married Alyn Velaryon, ancestor to the current Velaryons, incuding Aurane Waters). She was actually the half-aunt of Rhaena, Elaena and Daena in the Maidenvalut ;-) About point 5) I don't think there is any connection to pyromancy and dragon eggs hatching. To be honest the pyromancers are totally absent from F&B and does not seem to even exists at the time of the Dance of the Dragons, since, in case of its existence, it would be extremely strange that none of the factions made even a single thought about using wildfire in the civil war (not even as a defence or deterrent). This last observation could lead to some interesting theory. If the pyromancers didn't exists prior to the dance but apperead afterwards (as it seems) could it be that their 'order' are related to the disapperance of the dragons and their inability to hatch new ones? Maybe they are born as some branch of maesters involved in the conspiracy. That point is however contradicted by what Hallyne said in Clash of Kings about the pyromancer's abilities being stronger when the dragons were alive, but again in all the books and stories we got so far before ASOIAF there is not a single reference to the pyromancer's guild existence. This actually reminds me of the Dragonlance books, in which dragons eggs are used to create corrupted versions of dragons to be used as soldiers
  6. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Grey Ghost was killed by Sunfyre during the Dance (although the Cannibal got the public blame). Yes, the Cannibal was (probably) still around at the end of F&B, but according the what we know about him, it was more likely he would eat the malformed dragon rather than mate with it :-) Nettle and Sheepstealer were in the Mountains of the Vale, but since it was stated that it was not heard about anymore, we could probably rule it out as well. More important, if I remember correctly, the description of the dragon's skulls we had by Tyrion (or Eddard) POV in the books reported at least more than one malformed skull, so it is likely that more malformed dragons hatched (unless Martin decide to contradict that passage from GoT in the next F&B book)
  7. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Yes, that was explicitly stated by Martin. Targaryen, Velaryon, Celtigar, Baratheon and the exinct Qoherys are all houses of Valyrian descent that ended up in Westeros, but only the Targaryen were dragonlords. The others were probably vassals and allied families, among which the Velaryon stood as the most powerful
  8. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Her fate is still unknown, but yes, she is the last healthy dragon seen so far. As I said she probably had suffered some 'accident' because normally dragons lived much longer than humans. At the end of F&B, in 136 AC she is still alive and healthy, and the death of the last dragon (a green, malformed one born on dragonstone after the end of F&B) is in 153 AC. Since both are described as females and the last one produced five eggs, at least another male dragon has to be hatched during this period.
  9. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Not sure about the requirement of a female targaryen.. Vermax, Arrax and Tyraxes hatched in the craddles of the three sons of Rhaenyra
  10. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Addam yes, he bonded with Seasmoke, previously the dragon of Laenor. However bonding with a dragon could also take into account a sort of 'preference' of the dragon, in a sort of mutual choosing. The Rogue Prince novel says something similar about the dangers of approaching Vhagar when describing Aemond bondage with her. Addam, not having Targaryen blood (he was fathered probably by Corlys and not Laenor), is the only mentioned not-targaryen velaryon to bond with a dragon. Unless Alyssa Velaryon (wife of Aenys) had one, but I don't think it was the case. It seems that Velaryons, as a Valyian house, could easily been dragonriders, but however, prior to the Dance and the quest for Dragonseed, it seems that only those related directly with the Targaryen family could have that privilege (a royal decree was indeed necessary in order to be presented to a dragon egg or to try to bond a dragon)
  11. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Not really, he didn't allow Rhaena to bring Morning on the Red Keep even after Viserys returned (although the vulnerability of the Dragonpit was demonstred during the dance) I think Viserys egg never hatched, but don't remember if, when back to king landing he brought it back or if it was stolen/sold during his imprisonment in Lys
  12. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Viserys for some time during the regency was considered dead. The only possible dragonriders were Aegon and Baela, whose dragons died during the Dance, and Rhaena with Morning. Alyn tried to bond with Sheepstealer during the quest for dragonseed and failed, so it is unlikely we would (or could) try again
  13. PrinceoftheTides

    Great Houses - Valyrian Steel Sword Names?

    I think they bought them. Dragonstone, Craw Islands and Driftmark were part of Valyrian dominions so they could easily have also acted also as trade bases for some goods. If not those islands, which were effectively founded as military outposts, Pentos, Myr and Tyrosh were all valyrian satellite states quite easy to reach from Westeros for trade purposes and also Braavos after the unmasking was a major commercial partner of the Freehold and the closer city to the North and the Vale
  14. PrinceoftheTides

    Who Hatched the Last Dragon?

    Uhm, for me legitimacy for the dinasty and dragons were still quite related at the time, or at least were perceived to be important. In F&B it is written that a major problem for Aegon II and the greens after the death of Rhaenyra was that the blacks still had one dragon, although just an hatchling (Morning), which was considered a strong symbol of legitimacy. Nettles was, at least officiallly, presented as a dragoseed by the blacks, so her not-targ background was not publicly known But indeed you're right, the connection between dragons and legitimacy faded away after some time, with the Targ becoming more or less like other houses (execpt their incest-habits) in terms of legitimacy to rule over others (I mean just as the Stark ruled the North because they defeated the other petty kings in days of old)
  15. PrinceoftheTides

    Great Houses - Valyrian Steel Sword Names?

    Targayens had two Valyrian swords, the other one was Dark Sister
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