DanStark Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So my idea is, what if we see a battle for Weteros, after the defeat of the Others, between Dany and Jon. Now the only way that I believe this will come to pass is if GRRM writes 8 books (which he has stated he may), to give sufficant time for the White Walkers to be dealt with.So it starts with the confirmation of some more popular theories being confirmed. Jon is reborn as AA and finds out he is a Targ. Now, finding out he is a Targaryen, Jon goes to Winterfell to visit Lyannas tomb. Here he hears of Dany landing in Westeros with her dragons. He has learned through his coma or whatever that the dragons are the key to defeating the WW. He goes and reveals himself as Rhaegar and Lyannas son (perhaps he hooks up with Howland Reed and he confirms this) and then takes control of Rhaegal. (not really relevent, but I think Tyrion has control of Viserion at this point. Not because he is a Targ, just because he has read about dragons on the road to the NW and talked to Jon about it, plus he's awesome). Now around this time, the Wall comes down through the Horn of Jarmun, and the Others invasion commences. The battle for Westeros begins and the Westerosi win (hooray!), and Tyrion and Viserion die.Now after all this instead of the happy ''Jon and Dany fall in love get married and have little Targ babies'', what if Robb's letter legitimizing Jon is revealed, and it's worded along the lines of ''I Robert of the House Stark First of my Name etc.... and King in the North, hereby proclaim the bastard, Jon Snow, a true member of the House Stark. Also, it is my wish that in the event of my death, my brother Jon shall be my heir, and become the new King in the North''. Now reading this Jon finally feels a true part of the Stark family and remembering the love he has for Robb, he wishes to honour this and become the King in the North and Dany to become Queen in the South. But being the strongheaded b*tch that we all know Dany is, she refuses saying she will rule all 7 Kingdoms and if Jon tries otherwise there will be war. Jon pulls the ''well Im the rightful heir'' card and Dany has a bitch fit and the end of A Dream of Spring is the beginning of the Targ war.It is a lot of speculation but is also possible and would be the ''bittersweet'' ending GRRM had said it would be because, lets face it, she might be hated now, but when Dany arrives in Westeros on the back of Drogo with Tyrion beside her, and Victarion carrying her troops in his fleet, Dany is going to have Batman level fanboys, and almost everyone loves Jon. So one of them (Dany) dying in a war against the ther would be very bittersweet. So where do the POVs end up in all thisJon King in the NorthDany Died in the Targ warTryion Died in the battle for Westeros Sansa Marries either a Martel or a Tyrell, whoever becomes the new King in the SouthArya Havn't really any idea what happens to Arya, she's my 2nd favorite character so I'll give her a happy ending in that she is reunited with Nymeria who just happens to be with Gendry and they get married xoxBran Becomes the most powerful greenseer and has the ability to talk to people through trees and maybe gets to walk againTheon somehow survives to one of the Wars and dies protecting RickonAsha dies in the battle for Westeros saving TheonVictarion makes it to the Targ war and kills Loras Tyrell (not sure why I think this just that they're almost polar opposites and Vic is awesome)Aeron drowns trying to cleanse himselfCersei dies of an STD #Tramp.. Dany will probably stamp her out (the younger queen) while Tyrion looks on (younger brother, maybe he finds out she had something to do with Tysha and super-pissed)Jaime Stabbed in the back by Dany at some stage in revenge for AreysArianne marries Aegon, and when he marches on KL, is killed by MargeryAreo this dude is unfortunatly doomed to die, awesome character thoughMel Killed by Stannis the Mannis for sacraficing Shireen for JonBarristan makes it back to Westeros and sadly dies taking on the people in the Kingsguard unworthey to wear the white cloak i.e. Kettleback,Trant, Blount, Robert StrongDavos survives it all and either becomes devout to Rickon or realises the High Lords game is not for him and settles back in flea bottom with a bowl of brownSam Helps Jon through the glass candles and since there's no more wall, he doesn't need to become a Maester and settles at court with Gilly. Hopefully he beats the shit out of Randyl and Dickon in the process.Brienne dies by Oathkeeper in a trial by combat with Jaime that Lady Stoneheart forces them into. Maybe she falls on her own sword so that Jaime can help the worldJon Connington Flips when he learn Aegon isn't actually Aegon. Takes off his glove and rubs his hand all over Varys's face Well this was very long and a bit out there but on a site where Jojen Paste and Bolt-on is discussed, what defines crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheRa Seastar Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Cersei dies of an STD #Tramp..Jon Connington Flips when he learn Aegon isn't actually Aegon. Takes off his glove and rubs his hand all over Varys's face Rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted to snow Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 So it starts with the confirmation of some more popular theories being confirmed. Creative Theory, but the previous statement stated everything off on the wrong foot… The more popular a theory is with regards to the future of ASOIAF, the less likely it is to ever be fulfilled in the books... Jon is reborn as AA and finds out he is a Targ. This will never happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStark Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Creative Theory, but the previous statement stated everything off on the wrong foot… The more popular a theory is with regards to the future of ASOIAF, the less likely it is to ever be fulfilled in the books... This will never happen... But they are popular theories because they have been heavily forshadowed such as Lyanna dying in a bed of blood, her promise to Ned and The Knight of the Laughing Tree story showing that Rhaegar and Lyanna loved each other after Harrenhal. and really why else would Ned be so reluctant to talk about Jons mother? If it was Wylla or some other randomer why not put Cat out of her misery and just tell her who it was? Jon beng AA could go any which way to be fair the only real significance to this is when Mel looks into the flames to see AA all she sees is Snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makrell Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jon aint AA, noone is AA. Prophecies are not truly real, they might be but just by luck. Id say jon will elarn of his heritage but still choose to remain upon the wall, being the 1000th commander of the nights watch(as there will be one now(probly bowen marsh)) Dany might win, but her dragons will die, or she will die and her dragons survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady of Dragonstone Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 . (not really relevent, but I think Tyrion has control of Viserion at this point. Not because he is a Targ, just because he has read about dragons on the road to the NW and talked to Jon about it, plus he's awesome). Well this was very long and a bit out there but on a site where Jojen Paste and Bolt-on is discussed, what defines crazy? I like the last question that you posted. Indeed. But can you provide more evidence of Tyrion riding a dragon other than because he's awesome? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oramami Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Jon Connington Flips when he learn Aegon isn't actually Aegon. Takes off his glove and rubs his hand all over Varys's face YES! YES! HAHA, PERFECT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStark Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 I like the last question that you posted. Indeed. But can you provide more evidence of Tyrion riding a dragon other than because he's awesome? :) Well there's the stuff about him reading the dragons to start like this man knows dragons and I think it'd be very poetic for Tyrion to look down on everyone from a dragon when he has been looked down on his entire life. I remember reading that GRRM has said Dany and Tyrion will meet in WoW so maybe he'll teach her to control the dragons by demonstrating on Viserion, they bond and boom Tyrions got a dragon... In case you were wondering why Viserion, I'd like to imagine that if Jon is a Targ and gets a dragon he gets the one named after his father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oramami Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Dany is a spiteful little creature. She'll associate Tyrion with the atrocities his father committed in KL no matter what he does. You think she's going to just let him hop on Viserion and go like the creature is some kind of roller-coaster? If Tyrion wants to ride a Dragon, he's going to have to take it. like he's had to take everything he's ever wanted his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStark Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Dany is a spiteful little creature. She'll associate Tyrion with the atrocities his father committed in KL no matter what he does. You think she's going to just let him hop on Viserion and go like the creature is some kind of roller-coaster? If Tyrion wants to ride a Dragon, he's going to have to take it. like he's had to take everything he's ever wanted his life. Well she let Hopefully she'll return form her Dothraki adventure realsing she's been a cow and don't forget Tyrion is with Jorah and has saved Jorah twice now so Jorah should vouch for him. No I don't think she'll just give him the dragon but he might do some act to prove himself like if one of them try eat Missandei or Daario and Tyrion knows how to calm them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Jon Snow (the great Other) vs Daenerys,Melisandre,Stannis (Rh'llor) and High Sparrow (The Seven) ,Damphair (the Drowned God) and Brandon(the Old Gods) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Nutella Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Pls stop the Jon--> Great Other / Nights King nonsense , it is not going to happen. There is simply no foreshadowing or hints at it at all and the whole idea in itself is just ridicolous and antilogical regarding to what we know about Jon. And dont bring up Old Nan , that woman talks a lot when the day is long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewallcano Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 If thats the case, Go Jon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VersusAllOdds Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Dany is a spiteful little creature. She'll associate Tyrion with the atrocities his father committed in KL no matter what he does. You think she's going to just let him hop on Viserion and go like the creature is some kind of roller-coaster? If Tyrion wants to ride a Dragon, he's going to have to take it. like he's had to take everything he's ever wanted his life. Actually, Tyrion is the most resilient character I've ever read about. Martin has cheated the laws of physics with Tyrion too many times to ever get him killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oramami Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I don't believe I ever made a statement concerning Tyrions resiliency. Tyrion is in the middle of an increasingly desperate gambit, with pieces he has less control over than he did while the hand. Tyrion's link to all his associates has been one of quid-pro-quo. Tyrions substance of a character, and it is Considerable, has not bound anyone to his cause. He does not inspire loyalty in others. As he does not have the money and access to gifts/honors office that kept him above water in KL ,I think we'll see him sink into the quicksand despite his interpersonal and political acumen. Actually, Tyrion is the most resilient character I've ever read about. Martin has cheated the laws of physics with Tyrion too many times to ever get him killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Stark Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Dany is a spiteful little creature. She'll associate Tyrion with the atrocities his father committed in KL no matter what he does. You think she's going to just let him hop on Viserion and go like the creature is some kind of roller-coaster? If Tyrion wants to ride a Dragon, he's going to have to take it. like he's had to take everything he's ever wanted his life.Maybe she tells him to get on a dragon as a type of death sentence assuming that her dragons will just eat the little son of a traitor. But then, oh shit, plan backfires when one of the dragons likes him and so Tyrion becomes a rider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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