The Kingmaker Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 The Holocaust was just my example of a serious war crime.Theon killed those boys outside of 'the war'. To kill any child cannot be seen as a justifiable action during war times, even if it was Bran and Rickon rather than those two innocent boys. It's the same as if he went up to a man in the street and stabbed him, and said, 'it's ok, we're at war'.He had his reasons. He had his regrets. He had nightmares. Theon Greyjoy, unlike Ramsay Snow and Joffrey Lannister, was a humanbeing with feelings. He was just a boy who was trying to prove himself to rest of the world and his family. They seperated him from his family when he was 10, and look at the reaction he got when he returned to Isles. Mocked by his sister, mocked by his father, despised by his uncle. He just wanted to be someone, and sadly in Westeros easiest way to get it is being feared of.Tywin Lannister destroyed 2 houses and named as a great man. Jon Connington refused to burn a village when he was able to finish all rebellion and named as a loser. This is Westeros' truth.Because life is ,indeed, not a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavos Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 1) Balon2) Aeron3) Victarion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Imbel Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Ignore this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelly Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 1.) Balon Greyjoy2.) Aeron Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat of the Commons Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 CerseiAeronRamsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famousatnight Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 1. Aeron Greyjoy2. Theon Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Spearwife Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hm. The Greyjoys are so very hated.1. Balon2. Aeron3. Euron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaleesiDany Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 Lothar Imbel, you have played the Sansa to your own Ser Dontos (you know what I am talking about.) But I shall not punish you further than being required to dress in motley for this one turn. Don't be too upset about it because you are leading the board.#13 Aeron Greyjoy, the DamphairZzzz...zzz...huh? I'm sorry, I was rereading some of A Feast for Crows to get ready for the write-up, and I fell asleep....So it looks to me like we don't hate these lower characters for what they do in the story,so much as for what they put us through for having to read about them. The Damphair has the honor of being the first chapter in AFFC, preparing you for the snore-fest that is to come. Who is this person? What is he doing here? Maybe we just don't like change.And, he isn't called the Damphair or even Aeron. He's called The Prophet. That change alone was enough to confuse me, without additionally being a new POV. It was only upon frequenting the forums that I learned "Damphair" is pronounced "Damp-hair" and not "Dam-fair." Even GRRM, who has said we can pronounce the names any way we want, was startled enough to correct people like me on that one. So laugh all you want but "p" next to "h" makes "f" sound, okay ...I should mention more about his character, so let's see ... Theon remembers him fondly, until he meets him again, and sees how he grew into a stern and humorless man. No fun for Theon. By his own admission, when Aeron was young he wasn't really good at anything but pissing and getting drunk. Then he drowned in a battle against Stannis. But what is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger. The Ironborn words fit Aeron Greyjoy well, especially if you add "and more devout" at the end there. He even likes to drown other people, so that they will become religious like he is.These days when he is not preaching, he swims, glares at others, and looks down at his niece Asha.Statistics:Points: 60In 8 of 27 listsAverage Placing: 8.5Highest Placing: 2POINTS!Lothar Imbel :dunce: 10Chelly 8Reek the Turncloak 8Jaime's Wench 8Silver Spearwife 7DaniSnowborn 6Fragon 6Headless Jeyne 6Lord Arryn 6AryaSnow 5eddard of the house stark 5Jon's Queen Consort 5Stavos 5Early Earl 5Lady Kraken 5King Euron Greyjoy 3The Kingmaker 3Warg of Dragons 3famousatnight 3Franz95 3cat of the commons 2St. Arya of the Knife 2Juanvito 2Liar 2Petyr Baelish the First 1 :)Please tell me if I calculated anything wrong or anything like that.Hint for #12:A sellsword.I will post it on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Arryn Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I think Aeron is hated for the same reason melisandre is - religious fanatic.1. Daario naharis2. Ben Plumm3. Vargo Hoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz95 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 1. Daario Naharis2. Vargo Hoat3. Ben Plumm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaSnow Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I thought Aeron was too boring to be hated :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime's Wench Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 He had his reasons. He had his regrets. He had nightmares. Theon Greyjoy, unlike Ramsay Snow and Joffrey Lannister, was a humanbeing with feelings. He was just a boy who was trying to prove himself to rest of the world and his family. They seperated him from his family when he was 10, and look at the reaction he got when he returned to Isles. Mocked by his sister, mocked by his father, despised by his uncle. He just wanted to be someone, and sadly in Westeros easiest way to get it is being feared of.Tywin Lannister destroyed 2 houses and named as a great man. Jon Connington refused to burn a village when he was able to finish all rebellion and named as a loser. This is Westeros' truth.Because life is ,indeed, not a song.I can see what you're saying, but what I was saying originally is that it does not 'undo' what he did. It's the same with Jaime, though I believe Jaime had a 'better' reason for doing what he did, insofar as it was to protect people rather than his own pride. The fact remains that whatever Jaime does/does not do in the rest of the series, it will not 'redeem' him for what he did to Bran. I don't bother to get into debates about Ramsey or others like him because he is inherently evil. GRRM talks about how he likes to create grey characters, and he does that brilliantly, but for every one he creates also creates one archetypal villain.Back to purpose...1. Vargo Hoat2. Daario slutface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrish Swamp Thing Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 1: DaarioI thought of Vargo, but he ith too hilariouth to be hated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime's Wench Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I thought of Vargo, but he ith too hilariouth to be hatedI totally agree, but he was the one responsible for Jaime losing his sword hand, and now Jaime is in mortal peril.... so for me, it's kinda personal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbert Dondarrion Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hurrah!!!!! I have 1 point1. DaarioOnly guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavos Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 1) Daario Naharis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragon Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 1.Vargo Hoat2.Daario Naharis3. Ben Plumm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Kraken Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 1. Daario Naharis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Arya Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Daario.And I had 2 points first round so I'm at 4, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowStorm Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 This is too low for Daario.My guess is Ben Plumm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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