ezinne43 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Jon Show is one of my favourite characters, I think as he has become commander of the Watch, he has become aemotionally colder and cruel character threatening to kill Val`s baby , he seemed to lost some humanity along the way. Or is this what happens when one achieves power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodor stark Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 i just think hes doing what he has to do tbh dont think hes losing humanity but hes definately become an emotionally tougher person because as LC he has to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think that the pressures of his new position as Lord Commander, as well as his experiences among the Wildlings and his relationship with Ygritte, have forced Jon to become somewhat separated from the world around him. He's been through so much in the last few years that it would be unbelievable if his character hadn't changed. I don't know if he's become "cruel," so much as world-weary and emotionally inaccessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Luke. Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 He's certainly become more harsh and direct. He's changed a ton after Ygritte died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Lannistark Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah, He is a bit crueler, but he is still in my top three favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeve of Wizard Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I like his new "bring me a block" attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 He killed the boy, or at least he's trying to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria10k Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Yup. He killed the boy and became a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna94 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 He has killed the boy and become a man...sooo sad and also so invigorating that this kid could pull it all off because he was a great student at the knee of a great teacher (Ned, and Aemon later). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon88 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 To me Jon Snow became a more tougher man and more mature and willing to make tough decisions. I think this incident will cause him to rule more forcefully and become more direct. However I could see him thinking about what to do with the Watch and if the people support him as the commander and if he still stays as a commander, I see him become more direct and commanding. I think he would be less diplomatic with the members and more commanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy_gsxr1000 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I think he is becoming more of a leader or perhaps a King following Manse Ryader's lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadstarks Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 He's been groomed by Ned, Aemon, and Mormont to be a leader. He hasn't lost his humanity, but his position is forcing him to grow some balls and consequently, he comes across a lot harsher, particularly towards Sam. However, I second the notion that Janos had to go and I absolutely love the way he gets the nod of approval from Stanny boy after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther2000 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I agree Deadstarks. He has grown up and actually opened his eyes( not just the 3rd 1). I think that unlike Ned. Jon is willing to bend ( depending on what is going on). I do think that if Mormont would have let the Freekfolk through the gate. I can't see The Bear letting all those people die only to come back & hunt the NW. I think that he would have looked at the bigger picture like jon has. Ned, was a great person however, his Honor got in the way, (So much so that he caused his own death) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerDerrick Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think Lord Snow is just becoming less naive...that's all. And I think the reason Melissandre sees him in her flames when praying for Azor Ahai is because Jon Snow is the real Azor Ahai reborn. Interesting that in the first POV chapter of Melissandre she mentions her bed is useless since Stannis is gone...was she intimate with him for the sole reason she believed he is Azor Ahai reborn? If so, and if she starts to adopt my theory, will she try to corrupt/seduce Jon Snow? Will the newer and tougher Jon Snow be able to resist her charms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurkeyRod Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I agree Deadstarks. He has grown up and actually opened his eyes( not just the 3rd 1). I think that unlike Ned. Jon is willing to bend ( depending on what is going on). I do think that if Mormont would have let the Freekfolk through the gate. I can't see The Bear letting all those people die only to come back & hunt the NW. I think that he would have looked at the bigger picture like jon has. Ned, was a great person however, his Honor got in the way, (So much so that he caused his own death) Ned had been planning on moving the Free Folk into The Gift since at least AGoT. If anything Jon is only fulfilling his father figures life goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther2000 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 TurkeyRod, where is this in AGOT, I don't remember that. Even so, I am glad to hear that. I love Ned's character however, he made a lot of bad moves that ended up killing ROB, turning CAT into a Zombie, put Araya on the path of become a Serial Killer, & Sansa(lord, know what she will become). But, with Sansa & Jon, I think in the long run it will help them to become even more then what they would have been if they stayed at WF. Sansa's eyes opened up to the Real World & not the Fairy Tails that she like to believe in and Jon well that remains to be seen. But, if Ned never went to KL & been killed, Jon would have been nothing more than a Side kick to Rob( even though Rob loves Jon). & We have Yet to see how Big & Powerful he will become. Something does stick out in my mind though. George gave an interview years ago, and stated that the people that we think are evil ( aren't) and the people that he think are good & honorable ( aren't). I can see some of that already. The Hound, The Free Folk, aren't as evil as peopled said they were. On the other hand Lysa turned out to be BSC, but still evil. Aryay is going Dark, & lord knows how Rickon will turn out( think that their Dire wolves have their personalities) and Shaggy Dog was always off the chain, wild & violent. Damn, my quote Button isn't working. :frown5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Clegane's head Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Jon said he would do that to her baby but I really don't see it ever happening. Jon's a good person deep down just like his Stark cousins. He had to do it to avoid Mance's only child from burning or at least in his point of view. But yes he's trying to become a harder person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBranRickon Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Harder, isolated and without any real counsel after Maester Aemon and Samwell departed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It's a natural part of growing up, imo. How many adults are as nice as they were as a kid? You become more cynical, direct and aren't as prone to letting people walk over you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Wasn't Ned thinking of repopulating the Gift to have a buffer against the stealing Free Folk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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