TheCube Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 As Rodrik marched on WF he was joined by Cley Cerwin, Leobald Tallhart, and levies from House Manderly, an unspecified branch of House Flint, House Karstark & House Hornwood. Anybody know which of the Flints joined Rodrik?My guess would be (and it's only a guess) would be the Flints of Widow's Watch.I'm basing this solely on the fact that their lands are on the East coast, along with the Manderleys, the Karstarks and the Hornwoods, so it makes sense for their levies to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Maid Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Why is the question of who should inherit Hornwood even a question? It seems simple to me...If a Lord dies without a son (or grandson), then the lands would pass to his younger brother. If he has no brother (or nephews by his brother), then the heir would be his sister's son(s) (still the grandsons of the previous lord).Lord Halys Hornwood has a sister, Berena, who has two sons (Brandon and Beren Tallhart).I know it is suggested in ACoK that Beren should be "fostered" by his aunt Donella and become the heir, but that's not definitive.I just don't see why any more argument/discussion would be necessary. Why would any random dude who married the widow have a claim to the house/lands? Why would Donella have any power to name an heir to House Hornwood when there was a living (albeit captive), male heir descendant of her husband's father (previous Lord Hornwood) and she's actually a Manderly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 My guess would be (and it's only a guess) would be the Flints of Widow's Watch.I'm basing this solely on the fact that their lands are on the East coast, along with the Manderleys, the Karstarks and the Hornwoods, so it makes sense for their levies to be included.That was my thought too. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Why is the question of who should inherit Hornwood even a question? It seems simple to me...If a Lord dies without a son (or grandson), then the lands would pass to his younger brother. If he has no brother (or nephews by his brother), then the heir would be his sister's son(s) (still the grandsons of the previous lord).Lord Halys Hornwood has a sister, Berena, who has two sons (Brandon and Beren Tallhart).I know it is suggested in ACoK that Beren should be "fostered" by his aunt Donella and become the heir, but that's not definitive.I just don't see why any more argument/discussion would be necessary. Why would any random dude who married the widow have a claim to the house/lands? Why would Donella have any power to name an heir to House Hornwood when there was a living (albeit captive), male heir descendant of her husband's father (previous Lord Hornwood) and she's actually a Manderly?http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/The_Hornwood_Inheritance_and_the_Whents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenerationx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Do we know how Azor Ahai died the first time around?We don't have this information, do we? Legends rarely die of old age, but we know he supposedly was successful in beating back the Others 8,000 years ago, so at least some time after that -- but we don't know if he died in the final battle, or after of a wound, or just vanished into thin air.Thinking whoever is AA reborn, be it Jon, Dany, Arya, Stannis, Patchface or Hot Pie, they may share the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpionspupil Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Anyone ever notice that when you throw an apostrophe into Jaime, getting J'aime you get the french phrase for "I Love"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Anyone ever notice that when you throw an apostrophe into Jaime, getting J'aime you get the french phrase for "I Love"?Can't be unseen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not in the face Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Was the Tyrell reaction to the Red Wedding ever mentioned in the books? I can't remember if there were any minor quotes or such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckfield Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 How did Ned know Lyanna was in the tower of joy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 How did Ned know Lyanna was in the tower of joy?Ashara Dayne, possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckfield Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ashara Dayne, possibly.But he went to Starfall AFTER the tower of joy, to return Arthur Dayne's sword, so he saw Ashara after... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 And did that line say it was the first time he heard of or saw Ashara Dayne since the tourney at Harrenhal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Do we know how Azor Ahai died the first time around?We don't have this information, do we? Legends rarely die of old age, but we know he supposedly was successful in beating back the Others 8,000 years ago, so at least some time after that -- but we don't know if he died in the final battle, or after of a wound, or just vanished into thin air.Thinking whoever is AA reborn, be it Jon, Dany, Arya, Stannis, Patchface or Hot Pie, they may share the same fate.We do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 How did Ned know Lyanna was in the tower of joy?Wasn't the Tower of Joy a place Rhaegar was known to frequent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Do we know how Azor Ahai died the first time around?We don't have this information, do we? Legends rarely die of old age, but we know he supposedly was successful in beating back the Others 8,000 years ago, so at least some time after that -- but we don't know if he died in the final battle, or after of a wound, or just vanished into thin air.Thinking whoever is AA reborn, be it Jon, Dany, Arya, Stannis, Patchface or Hot Pie, they may share the same fate.Maybe he lived a long happy life or maybe he went to Asshai like Nervarine goes to akavir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Was the Tyrell reaction to the Red Wedding ever mentioned in the books? I can't remember if there were any minor quotes or such.In their conversation with Sansa, Margaery expressed sympathy, while Olenna snarky remarked something like Your brother was a terrible traitor, I know, but if we start killing people at their weddings, the world will be even more crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Did anyone else think Pyat Pree was the warlock Euron killed? I'm not so sure after reading this comment from Martin:I think he was one of the four. I cant recall if he killed them all, or just the one. This comment makes me think PP eventually survived - maybe Euron still has them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Where can I read the new chapters from TWoW? I've only read Arianne's :(Google is your friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Also, unrelated: Can Tourney's be rigged?They can be set up to favor a winner such as the tourney won by Harry the Heir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If all the Martells die but a married Mrycella Baratheon lives, is she the ruler of Dorne? Wait, actually is she going to become Mrycella Martell?This is a little more complicated. The Martells are toying with the idea that since in Dorne girls inherit just as boys do, in their opinion Myrcella is the true Baratheon heir to the throne. This way they stay loyal sort of. I am not sure their plans extend beyond this. In fact pulling such shenanigans puts Dorne at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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