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Lost Melnibonean

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  1. Nice. Is there anything else to suggest that Jon Connington knows about Jon Snow's true parentage? Perhaps he knows that Rhaegar and Lyanna had a son, but maybe he doesn't know that the boy lived?
  2. This brief recollection, which was written in Dance after the George figured out his Blackfyre subplot, doesn't really "prove" anything. If it did, there would be no reason for the countless pages spent on the Blackfyre debate in this forum. It could be, as you suggest, intended simply to reinforce the notion that Viserys was laughable. But why waste time in Dance to reinforce what we already know about a character killed back in Game? Yes, it does show that the Golden Company were clearly willing to listen, at the very least, to the Targaryen heir. Keep in mind, though, that the feast was most likely brokered and hosted by some other patron prior to Illyrio getting involved directly, so we don't know what the politics were behind that, or if the politics behind that feast even matter to the plot. Listen to the storyteller... After Feast, we got the third installment of the tales of Dunk and Egg, which told the story of the Second Blackfyre Rebellion. That was a lot of backstory on the Blackfyre history--first hinted at in Storm, and then elaborated on in Feast--but since Barristan extinguished the Blackfyres when he slew Maelys, we still had no compelling reason to suspect that Illyrio was plotting to install a Blackfyre. We did know that Varys and Illyrio were working to install a claimant other than one of the Targlings on the Iron Throne, but we could still only guess at who that other claimant might be. Based on what we knew before Dance, that claimant would most likely be Rhaegar's son Aegon, or perhaps an imposter posing as Rhaegar's son. The next most likely possibility at that point was a descendant of Aerion's son, who, we learned, was passed over for Aegon the Unlikely. A descendant of Rhaenrya Targaryen was another possibility, but she was only mentioned once. That changed when we read Tyrion II, Dance 5. In Tyrion I, Dance 1, we saw that Varys had sent Tyrion off to his master Illyrio. This appeared to have been spur of the moment since Jaime compelled him to do it. Tyrion described a statue in Illyrio's manse of a boy of 16, blonde, lithe, and handsome, holding a sword that shimmered like "true steel." Later, in Tyrion II we would learn that this was crafted when Illyrio was 16. (So, Tyrion can guess ages after all. ) Tyrion found a chest of clothes for a young boy that Illyrio had stored with some care. And he found a cask of strongwine marked as the private stock of Lord Runceford Redwyne, the grandfather of the present Lord of the Arbor, suggesting a past or long time relationship between Illyrio's house and Redwyne. The color of the wine was "a purple so dark that it looked almost black in the dim-lit cellar." And we saw that Illyrio was sending the clever dwarf off to aid Daenerys, just as he sent Barristan. But if he was backing some other claimant, why was he giving so much support to Daenerys? And then we read Tyrion II, Dance 5, and everything changed. Illyrio expected that Daenerys was on her way west with Barristan, and that she merely stopped in Slaver's Bay to aquire an army and take some spoils. He believed that she would have to pass Volantis, whether by land or sea, so that was where he was sending Tyrion to meet her. But they were going northeast to the Flatlands, and Tyrion noted that they should have traveled to Volantis by sea. We would find out why momentarily. Illyrio first told Tyrion that he was merely helping Daenerys to gain her birthright, but Tyrion noted that he gave her to Drogo. Although Illyrio admitted that he did not think the fearful, furtive girl would survive, he "grew pensive" when he said that, suggesting that he was genuinely concerned about her, but then we saw he was concerned about his investment, rather than the girl, when he told Tyrion that "Viserys might have undone years of planning," if Viserys had taken his sister's maidenhead. Next Illyrio told Tyrion that he helped Viserys because Viserys offered him Casterly Rock and the office of Master of Coin. Illyrio suggested that he was was doing it for coin, but the reason rang hollow when he admitted that he had no interest in leaving Pentos for Casterly Rock. And would replacing Petyr, Tyrion, and Gyles Rosby to become Master of Coin truly enhance Illyrio's wealth? Moreover, he waived it off completely in any case, expressing no concern as to whether Daenerys would make good on her brother's promises. But then he hinted at the real reason... that he had "debts of affection to repay." Even Tyrion noted that Illyrio had something more in this venture than coin or castles. Then, we get the backstory on Illyrio and Varys... Surely, Illyrio was holding back critical details, but the storyteller was telling the reader what he wanted us to know early in Dance. And then we learned why they were headed for the Flatlands... Illyrio was taking Tyrion to Griff, a sellsword whom Illyrio said they could trust. And then... Immediately, we should have paused reading to recall what we read in the the Tales of Dunk and Egg, and most importantly this from The Soiled Knight, Feast 13... Apparently, Dance 1 occurs before Feast 13... This mystery was getting really interseting... What did he mean by a contract writ in blood? Was it related to the debts of affection he had to repay? What was Illyrio's relationship with the Golden Company? A fly in the ointment, perhaps... And there it is. House Blackfyre did end through the male line as we learned way back in Storm, but the implication was that House Blackfyre had survived through the female line. And here is why I think the George included that recollection a few chapters later... to make the reader skeptical that home was all the Golden Company truly wanted. But Tyrion II, Dance 5 was not done. We got a little more of Illyrio's backstory... Why was Serra important to the plot of ASOIAF and, more specifically, to the Second Dance of the Dragons? Oh really? Why would Illyrio believe a sellsword's son was the most noble lad that ever lived? Oho! That's why. At that point the reader could guess at Illyrio's motives... to put this most noble lad upon the Iron Throne. We could reasonably conclude that Aegon was descended from Daemon Blackfyre along the female line. But that's not "proven" or revealed. Aegon's identity is not certain. We still need to piece together the relationships among Illyrio, Varys, Jon Connington, Young Griff, and the Golden Company, and Daenerys's recollection a few chapters later is a piece in that puzzle.
  3. IIRC, we know that the tapestries show hunting scenes. Some have speculated that the tapestries depict Baratheons.
  4. I think he will end up fighting the Others on the front lines, but I don't think he'll formally take the black.
  5. I agree. I have no idea how the current mini-plot with Lady Stoneheart will be resolved, but I do believe that Jaime's character will go on to resolve larger plot issues. He is set up to take out Cersei, help Aegon sit the Iron Throne, and take the Black.
  6. Bloodraven, who sided with the red dragon against the brother he loved, sent Jaime's fallen Kingsguard brothers to hammer home Jaime's crime when he betrayed Aerys, notwithstanding Jaime's defense that Aerys planned to burn King's Landing. Rhaegar reminded him that he left his wife and children in Jaime's hands. Bloodraven seems to be preparing Jaime to raise up Jon, Rhaegar's heir, as king. Jaime I, Feast Jaime identifies with the Warrior... Jaime II, Feast And the Warrior protects children... Samwell II, Storm Jaime wants to make good on his failed duty to protect Rhaegar's children... Jaime I, Dance Jaime doesn't believe that Rhaegar has any living children. But the George strongly hinted that Jamie will be a kingmaker... Jaime II, Feast But perhaps Jaime will believe Aegon's claim? Here is a telling quote from Barristan on his path to redemption after taking Robert's pardon... Daenerys II, Dance And here's Jaime telling Lancel what he thought of Robert... Jaime IV, Feast And note the colors he was wearing... Jaime IV, Feast Black on Red, like the Blackfyre dragon... Assuming Jaime is Cersei's valonqar, this quote would tie in nicely with Jaime unwittingly supporting the black dragon... Cersei II, Feast Of course, I don't think Aegon could allow Jaime to enter his service. I think Jaime will be allowed to take the black as The Ned wanted and as this foreshadows... Catelyn X, Game
  7. Daenerys IX, Game 68 The pronoun “he” above, of course, refers to Drogo, whom Daenerys was about to send off into the night lands. Will Drogo return? Quentyn son of Prince Doran of House Martell, whose sigil is the sun, rose in the west when he left Dorne, and he set in the east when he was killed in Meereen. Our lovely dragon queen notes in Daenerys X, Dance 71, that the Dothraki Sea is going dry. When she sits among her persimmon trees and lemon trees atop the Great Pyramid of Meereen and looks upon the smaller pyramids, she feels as if she is “atop the highest mountain in the world,” thus comparing the pyramids to mountains. Since then, one such “mountain” has collapsed in ruins, and the dragons have turned two more into smoking lairs. That leaves us with Daenerys’s womb quickening again, and her bearing a living child. Even if what Daenerys went through on her recent walk about was a miscarriage, that would not satisfy the elements above. A quickening happens when a mother-to-be can feel the fetus moving. However, since the other elements have been satisfied, and since this is a fantasy filled with prophecy and foreshadowing, I would think that Daenerys’s womb will quicken again, and she will bear a living child, and her son will sit the Iron Throne... Daenerys IV, Game 36 Her son will be Aegon’s... Daenerys I, Game 3 Daenerys VI, Storm 71 (emphasis in the original) Daenerys I, Dance 2 (emphasis in the original) Tyrion VI, Dance 22 The love won’t last, of course... Tyrion I, Clash 3 Arianne I, Winds And Daenerys will vanquish Aegon... The Ugly Little Girl, Dance 64 Daenerys was the first head. Aegon, red with rust, is revealed to be the second. Jon will be revealed to be the third. Although a dragon is still a dragon whether it is black or red, Aegon is the mummer’s dragon... Daenerys V, Clash 63 And Daenerys will slay the fraud... Daenerys IV, Clash 48 So, the wee Targlet will live, but Daenerys won’t... Daenerys IV, Clash 48 The last fire Daenerys will light will be the one that is lit to consume her lifeless body after she dies giving birth to her child, a fire to love. Drogo will not return to Daenerys, but Daenerys will return to Drogo. Consider the three mounts she must ride, "one to bed and one dread and one to love." Most of us suspect the first is her silver with Drogo to the grassy place beside a small stream, and that the second is Drogo’s namesake Drogon. The George loves his threes, so I goat a gold dragon says the third one will be the smoky stallion Daenerys will ride to join her sun-and-stars in the Night Lands.
  8. Several weeks before arriving at the Twins for the Red Wedding, Robb dispatched Maege Mormont and Galbart Glover with a detachment of troops to Greywater Watch to prepare an assault on the Ironborn at Moat Cailin with Howland Reed. Maege and Galbart knew of Robb's desire to name Jon as his heir, believing that Bran, Rickon, and Arya were dead and Sansa wed to a Lannister. About three months later, we hear from a younger Mormont... Jon I, Dance We know that Dacey went south with Maege and the Young Wolf, and that Lyra and Jorelle went south with Maege. Through Jon's musings, the storyteller suggests to us that Maege left Alysane as castellan when she marched south, and we find out later that Alysane joined Stannis after burning Asha's ships at Deepwood Motte, and that Lyra and Jorelle are still with Maege. Did Maege return to Bear Island clandestinely, or did Alysane act on her own? If Maege did not return, how did Lyanna know Jon STARK was the King in the North? (Bran and Rickon were presumed dead, so to what other STARK could she have been referring?) If Maege returned to give Alysane the order to burn Asha's ships, did she then leave again with Lyra and Jorelle leaving Lyanna at Bear Island? Or did Maege perhaps remain at Bear Island with Lyra and Jorelle? And where is Galbart Glover? Again through Jon, the storyteller suggests that he should have gone with Maege to free Deepwood Motte... Jon I, Dance Galbart is not wed, but his brother's wife and children were captured when Asha seized Deepwood Motte. Or are Maege and Galbart just chillin' in the swamp at Grewater Watch? I just can't believe they sat around for three months with Bolton and Frey marching north, the Ironmen occupying Deepwood Motte, and Bear Island further threatened by the Ironmen.
  9. The author has already suggested the answer... After leaving Harrenhal but before returning to rescue Brienne Jaime had a dream. We know this dream was inspired by Bloodraven since Jaime rested his head on a weirwood stump. He is forced down into a cave by hooded figures brandishing spears. (A foreshadowing of Jaime's coming encounter with Catelyn) He is shoved into a pit with Brienne, who fears a bear. (A foreshadowing of Jaime's rescuing the maiden not so fair later in the (chapter) Tywin, Joffrey, and Cersei then appear. This predates the Red Wedding so Tywin and Joffrey are still alive at this point, but he and Joffrey will soon die, suffering deaths for which Jaime must later feel some blame, since he released Tyrion, who killed Tywin, and he was the Lord Commander of Joffrey's Kingsguard but unable to protect him. And of course Jaime is the leading candidate to be Cersei's valonqar. So this might be a foreshadowing of deaths of Tywin, Joffrey and Cersei. The trio departs but not before Tywin gives Jaime a sword. Keep in mind that the sword Tywin actually gives to Jaime is one of two made from Ice and Jaime gives his sword, in turn, to Brienne. In the dream Brienne gets a sword like Jaime's and they both burn--silvery blue, like ice, real ice, not the sword of course, but the allusion is there. Then Bloodraven, who sided with the red dragon against the brother he loved, sent Jaime's fallen Kinsguard brothers to hammer home Jaime's crime when he betrayed Aerys, notwithstanding Jaime's defense that Aerys planned to burn King's Landing. Rhaegar reminded him that he left his wife and children in Jaime's hands. Bloodraven seems to be preparing Jaime to raise up Jon, Rhaegar's heir, as king. Jaime I, Feast Jaime identifies with the Warrior... Jaime II, Feast And the Warrior protects children... Samwell II, Storm Jaime wants to make good on his failed duty to protect Rhaegar's children, but Jaime doesn't believe that Rhaegar has any living children. Jaime I, Dance But the George strongly hinted that Jamie will be a kingmaker... Jaime II, Feast Perhaps Jaime will believe Aegon's claim? Here is a telling quote from Barristan on his path to redemption after taking Robert's pardon... Daenerys II, Dance And here's Jaime telling Lancel what he thought of Robert... Jaime IV, Feast And here is what he was wearing when he said that... Jaime IV, Feast Black on Red, like the Blackfyre dragon. Assuming Jaime is Cersei's valonqar, this quote would tie in nicely with Jaime unwittingly supporting the black dragon... Cersei II, Feast Then we get this moment in Baelor's Sept (keep in mind that Bloodraven is associated with mist)... Jaime I, Feast So we see that as a mist forms about Tywin's corpse, a man so intimately associated with the deaths of Rhaegar's children, Jaime wants to gag on a sweet rotten stench. It seems to me that Jaime will turn on his family, and Cersei in particular. Tyrion II, Dance This could foreshadow Queen Daenerys, not Cersei, feeding Jaime to Drogon. But note that Drogon is black, if Aegon and Daenerys ally before they dance, and if Jaime helps Aegon ascend to the throne by killing Cersei, perhaps Aegon's Queen Daenerys will allow Jaime to take the black.
  10. Hopefully, neither R+L=J nor Aegon Blackfyre will be spelled out literally. If it must be done, let's hope it is not revealed by Illyrio... "I am your father" has been done before.
  11. The main reason for the Quentyn subplot could be to give Dorne a reason not only to favor Aegon, but also to resent Daenerys in the upcoming dance. Weren't Gerris and Archibald freed? Shouldn't we expect them to return home to share their side of the story with Dorne?
  12. We already have met her. And Tyrion will too... Cat of the Canals, Feast 34 To be brazen is to be bold and without shame. To brazen is to endure an embarrassing or difficult situation by behaving with apparent confidence and lack of shame. And this Brazen Monkey is small. Remind you of anyone? A “twisted little monkey demon,” perhaps? Tyrion VII, Dance 27 Cat of the Canals, Feast 34 So, the little Brazen Monkey from Westeros is looking for a whore, wherever whores go, and Arya directs him to the Sailor’s Wife and pretty little Lanna... Cat of the Canals, Feast 34 Recall that the Sailor’s Wife “only beds the ones who marry her.” And here we learn a bit about Lanna... Cat of the Canals, Feast 34 That’s a lot of information about a bit character, no? Now, here’s the kicker... Appendix, Feast Yes, Lanna is the pretty, little, golden-haired, 14 year-old daughter of the Sailor’s Wife, for whom Merry charges extra. Tyrion VI, Game 42 Lanna is worth more... just like a Lannister. Although the author gave us a physical description of Lanna, He hasn't given us a physical description of the Sailor's Wife. Tyrion III, Clash 15 I got a dragon says the Sailor's Wife has dark hair and blue eyes. And check this out... Cat of the Canals, Feast 34 Compare Dareon’s brazen outfit to the brazen, twisted little monkey demon’s... Tyrion IV, Dance 14 Cat of the Canals, Feast 34 Like I said, that’s a lot of detail for a bit character. Doesn't the development of this subplot demand resolution? Tyrion IV, Dance 14 SSM, George R.R. Martin Skyping Croatian Fans (17:53) Tyrion I, Dance 1 Tyrion’s head is going to freaking explode! And maybe then we'll find out what grand gift the Sealord of Braavos gave to Penny and Oppo. Tyrion VIII, Dance 33 There's a reason that thread was not sewn up.
  13. I think the George has been developing the backstory for the eggs since before Game was published.
  14. And floppy straw hat this summer, unless your hair grows back, in which case you can die it green and say you're Tyroshi.
  15. "Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you."
  16. “What do we say to the Lord of Death?' 'Not today.”
  17. I wouldn't make too much out of the word pretender. It is used to describe any alternative claimant, whether the claim is valid or not.
  18. And that's what sets up giving the boy the sword. He's going to get the dragon (the green one) and the queen (the silver one) too. Until she kills him anyway.
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