Dead Wolf Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Does anyone else think that whoever sits the Iron Throne in the end (If it still exists) will have been chosen by a Great Council like Cat wanted to happen? Or will they all just massacre each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I dont think so. With the current state of Westeros at the end of ADWD, I find it hard to believe that you can sit Cersei, Stannis, Dany, Euron, and JonCon/ Aegon in a table and ask four of them to back down. Unfortunately, its going to end in a bloodbath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusFTW Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think the Lannisters and the Starks and Stannis will make up and become best friends and decide to let the Targrayens have the Iron throne. :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 It won't happen in the current climate. Stannis won't back down, Dany is hardly going to rely on diplomacy when she has dragons, Euron is completely batshit, Aegon's lived his whole life building up to reclaiming it. Then you've got the High Septon, Tyrion, Victarion, angry Northman, the Martells, and so many other bitter, violent factions that don't want to give an inch to their enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowford Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Depends on what you consider a "great council". Even Catelyn didn't meant that it would include ALL Lords of the Seven Kingdoms, just those currently supporting Robb, Stannis and Renly (which at this point were most of them, though). So it was not really a "let's all sit down and talk instead of fighting" and more a "let's make an alliance so that we can fight those other people together". And something like the latter will probably happen at some point. It seems unlikely to me that all but one of the people currently staking a claim (Tommen/Cersei, Stannis, Dany, Aegon, Euron, possibly others) will be defeated and only one remains as the victor by default.So alliances will be made, although key players here might be those who don't necessarily want to claim the Iron Throne, but rather parts of the Seven Kingdoms, like Sansa or Rickon for the North, Tyrion for the Westerlands, or possible Doran for Dorne. I can imagine them supporting one of the other claimants in exchange for independence or greater autonomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeve of Wizard Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Bloodbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusFTW Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 It won't happen in the current climate. Stannis won't back down, Dany is hardly going to rely on diplomacy when she has dragons, Euron is completely batshit, Aegon's lived his whole life building up to reclaiming it. Then you've got the High Septon, Tyrion, Victarion, angry Northman, the Martells, and so many other bitter, violent factions that don't want to give an inch to their enemies. :lol: There might be some sort of council but only for the purpose of all the other lords surrendering when/if Dany turns up and burns a few armies to ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 :lol: There might be some sort of council but only for the purpose of all the other lords surrendering when/if Dany turns up and burns a few armies to ash.There is a flip side to that statement. The lords unite, in order to bring down and destroy her flying WMDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestis Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I suspect there will be a Great Council, but only at the very end of the books. As others have stated, none of the current contenders have any need or desire for compromise, but I have a feeling that in the wake of all the devastation caused throughout the series and with winter setting in, the realm will be in shambles and there will be no smooth succession of any kind. Instead of fighting for claims, power or gold, the series ends with the lords selecting someone who can actually keep the realm together.I personally believe that practically everyone intent on taking the Iron Throne right now will ultimately fail: Stannis will go down in the North (either betrayed by the Northmen who wish to make Jon or Rickon King in the North or killed in battle against the Others); (f)Aegon is crowned King Aegon VI after the Lannister/Tyrell regime collapses, leading to the deaths of Tommen and Myrcella, but is defeated in the Second Dance of the Dragons by Danaerys. Dany takes the throne, but is hated as a savage, barbarian, kin-slaying queen who stole (f)Aegon's 'rightful' legacy: when her military forces are spent after the battle against the Others (including the dragons), Dany is either deposed or abdicates.With no clear line of succession, the Seven Kingdoms are forced to call another Great Council to establish a new dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 When the Others take over they will hold democratic elections to select the first Prime Minister of Westeros..No there is no possibility of a Great Council at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Manderly Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I suspect there will be a Great Council, but only at the very end of the books. As others have stated, none of the current contenders have any need or desire for compromise, but I have a feeling that in the wake of all the devastation caused throughout the series and with winter setting in, the realm will be in shambles and there will be no smooth succession of any kind. Instead of fighting for claims, power or gold, the series ends with the lords selecting someone who can actually keep the realm together.I personally believe that practically everyone intent on taking the Iron Throne right now will ultimately fail: Stannis will go down in the North (either betrayed by the Northmen who wish to make Jon or Rickon King in the North or killed in battle against the Others); (f)Aegon is crowned King Aegon VI after the Lannister/Tyrell regime collapses, leading to the deaths of Tommen and Myrcella, but is defeated in the Second Dance of the Dragons by Danaerys. Dany takes the throne, but is hated as a savage, barbarian, kin-slaying queen who stole (f)Aegon's 'rightful' legacy: when her military forces are spent after the battle against the Others (including the dragons), Dany is either deposed or abdicates.With no clear line of succession, the Seven Kingdoms are forced to call another Great Council to establish a new dynasty.This! :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRhaegar Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 bro this started in blood and it shall end in blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard/Mitt Lannister Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think having it end with any sort of Council would not work for the story.I suspect that only one claimant will be alive at the end anyway, or all will be dead and the 7K will break up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 It won't happen in the current climate. Stannis won't back down, Dany is hardly going to rely on diplomacy when she has dragons, Euron is completely batshit, Aegon's lived his whole life building up to reclaiming it. Then you've got the High Septon, Tyrion, Victarion, angry Northman, the Martells, and so many other bitter, violent factions that don't want to give an inch to their enemies.I certainly hope so. Stannis is a friend to the Starks and the North so between them Dany won't stand a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusFTW Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I certainly hope so. Stannis is a friend to the Starks and the North so between them Dany won't stand a chance*cough*DRAGONS*cough*Aegon the conquerer defeated all of the seven kingdoms with no army because he had dragons. Dany also has unsullied as well as maybe her freedmen or the Iron Fleet against the broken and scattered armies of the 7K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Manderly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Aegon the conquerer defeated all of the seven kingdoms with no army because he had dragons. Dany also has unsullied as well as maybe her freedmen or the Iron Fleet against the broken and scattered armies of the 7K.Aegon the Conqueror did not defeat Dorne due to their refusal to take to the battle field, and very succesfully resorting hit-and-run guerilla tactics instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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