lyannaisalive Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 A lot of the prophecies or sayings patchface has contains the words under the sea. It is obvious that he could be talking about literally under the sea but is it possible hes not. In the cave with Ygritte and Jon we learn the story of Gendel and Gorne who lead the free folk underneath the wall through a system of caves. The wall is massive, so could any of his prophecies have to do with these tunnels "under the sea"? Possibly a way for the Wights to get pass the wall unkown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrio Mo'Parties Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Eh, maybe, but I don't see it. There are one or two Patchface quotes that might make sense if "under the sea" means "underground", though: Under the sea, the birds have scales for feathers Melisandre believes there's a dragon under Dragonstone, and there's theories that there might be dragons underneath Winterfell. I suppose these two might possibly apply to Jon and Ygritte in those caves, given how happy they are down there, and how it's a respite from the awful cold above ground. It is always summer under the sea. The merwives wear nennymoans in their hair and weave gowns of silver seaweed. I know. I know… Under the sea it snows up, and the rain is dry as bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
three-eyed monkey Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 For me, "Under the Sea" = in death, the other side, beyond the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Not That Littlefinger Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 not every patchface saying has meaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Daario Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I wouldn't call his sayings 'prophecies', but still the things he says are pretty creepy.. It's interesting that Melisandre says that he's dangerous in ADWD...also it seems like Patchface might be more aware of what's going on around him than we were led to believe earlier, based on some of his interactions at Castle Black. It definitely seems there is more to him, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchyor Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 In a land where magic swords that radiate light, dragons & giants exist and horrible undead Ice-men are said to ride Giant Spiders (let alone, warging and prophesy), is it really that inconceivable to take Patchface at face value and believe there is an undersea land of merefolk, or at least an underground (under the sea cave network) land, where the inhabitants worship a "drowned god"? It all seems very plausible to me. But then, "I WANT TO BELIEVE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julied Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I was thinking about this today and thought maybe he meant on the other side of the sea. I had a quick look at the world map thinking that maybe under the sea meant south of the sea, but that would be the summer isles, when I thought he meant Essos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The mysteries of Patchface are many and dark. Digging into them too much will destroy your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I wouldn't call his sayings 'prophecies', but still the things he says are pretty creepy.. It's interesting that Melisandre says that he's dangerous in ADWD...also it seems like Patchface might be more aware of what's going on around him than we were led to believe earlier, based on some of his interactions at Castle Black. It definitely seems there is more to him, at least. Funny, he talked about the Red Wedding and it happened. I'd say they are prophecies, but more vague than the rest of them. Patchface is Westeros' own Nostradamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfyre Gateau Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Maybe Patchface is a Keane fan - you know of their second album, Under the Iron Sea... I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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