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Who would win in a swordfight? Ser Arthur Dayne vs. Aegon the Conqueror (minus Balerion)


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Who do you think would win? The Sword of the Morning or the Conqueror himself, without a dragon. I figured it would be a fair fight. Arthur has Dawn and Aegon, Blackfyre. They are in an open field and alone. Both are wearing armor and both are in the primes of their life. I can't decide who I think would come out on top.

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Aegon was said to be a good warrior, but Arthur was at the time, and up until this point in time, named the best fighter Westeros has seen! Arthur for me

Yeah I'm kind of leaning towards Arthur but you have to be some kind of badass to control Balerion the Black Dread and fight from his back. I believe Aegon's willpower would be a strength for him. But then again there's a reason they give Dawn to the most badass Dayne at the time and not the heir apparent.

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Aegon was said to be a good warrior, but Arthur was at the time, and up until this point in time, named the best fighter Westeros has seen! Arthur for me

I agree. Never heard that Aegon was praised for his skill in sword fighting. He just happened to have three dragons and two badass sisters/wives to ride them.

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I can calculate the odds as how they would be in a duel in the game of thrones mod.



First of all the personal profile's of the combatants:



Aegon the conquerer:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97664399/Aegon.jpg



His traits from left or right (traits are the little icons under the main stats next to the characters picture)


Aegon is:


-a brilliant commander


-a dragon rider


-strong


-formidable warrior


-owns valyrian sword blackfyre


-a knight


-ambitious


-diligent


-just


-proud


-sceptical


-brave


-authorative



Sir Arthur Dayne


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97664399/Arthur.jpg


Ser Arthur dayne is:


- a dutifull commander (not so good a strategian as Aegon the brilliant commander)


- a formidable swordsman


- a knight


- owns Dawn the valyrian sword


- is a kingsguard


- is a duelist


- temperate


- brave


- diligent


- patient


- proud


- just


- sceptical.



Each candidate has a percentage of chance that he will win in combat determined by a number of factors as noted below. All factors are counted toghether and at the end we can devide ones factor of chance by the other to determine who has more chance to win.

Factors


positive is x (multiply), negative is / (devide)

x2 poor warior

x4 trained warior

x8 skilled warrior

x16 master warrior

x2 owns a valyrian steel sword


Physical

x2 strong

/2 weak

x2 genius

x1.5 quickwitted

/2 imbecile

/1.5 slow

x2 for being tall

/2 for being a hunchback

/2 for being a dwarf

/2 for being clubfooted


x2 brave

x2 wroth

/2 craven

x1.5 deceitfull

/1.5 honest

x2 ruthless

x2 for being a duelist


/2 from being wounded

/4 from being maimed

/999999 for being crippled

/2 for being ill

/4 for being infirm

/6 for having a plague like for ex. bloody flux

/30 for being blinded


x2 for having a direwolf at youre side

x1.5 for having a wolf, snowbear, eagle, shadowcat or brownbear at youre side, x1.25 for boar crow or dog


x2 chosen by rhllor

x1.25 favored by rhllor


Score Aegon the conquerer

x16 for being a formidable warrior, x2 for being brave, x2 for being strong, x2 for using a valyrian steel sword. total factor= x128


Score for Ser Arthur Dayne

x16 for being a formidable warrior, x2 for being brave, x2 foor being a duelist, x2 for using a valyrian steel sword. total factor x128


Well damn. Not always easy to take 2 random characters from this mod and come to the point that they have equal chance to win. Arthur is a better sword, and Aegon is somewhat stronger, in the end it should be equal, one will likely die but it's 50/50 as to who.


The 2 men would like eachother though in this game, they have very simmilar traits and in this game that esults in good relations and even friendship.

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I can calculate the odds as how they would be in a duel in the game of thrones mod.

First of all the personal profile's of the combatants:

Aegon the conquerer:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97664399/Aegon.jpg

His traits from left or right (traits are the little icons under the main stats next to the characters picture)

Aegon is:

-a brilliant commander

-a dragon rider

-strong

-formidable warrior

-owns valyrian sword blackfyre

-a knight

-ambitious

-diligent

-just

-proud

-sceptical

-brave

-authorative

Sir Arthur Dayne

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97664399/Arthur.jpg

Ser Arthur dayne is:

- a dutifull commander (not so good a strategian as Aegon the brilliant commander)

- a formidable swordsman

- a knight

- owns Dawn the valyrian sword

- is a kingsguard

- is a duelist

- temperate

- brave

- diligent

- patient

- proud

- just

- sceptical.

Each candidate has a percentage of chance that he will win in combat determined by a number of factors as noted below. All factors are counted toghether and at the end we can devide ones factor of chance by the other to determine who has more chance to win.

Factors

positive is x (multiply), negative is / (devide)

x2 poor warior

x4 trained warior

x8 skilled warrior

x16 master warrior

x2 owns a valyrian steel sword

Physical

x2 strong

/2 weak

x2 genius

x1.5 quickwitted

/2 imbecile

/1.5 slow

x2 for being tall

/2 for being a hunchback

/2 for being a dwarf

/2 for being clubfooted

x2 brave

x2 wroth

/2 craven

x1.5 deceitfull

/1.5 honest

x2 ruthless

x2 for being a duelist

/2 from being wounded

/4 from being maimed

/999999 for being crippled

/2 for being ill

/4 for being infirm

/6 for having a plague like for ex. bloody flux

/30 for being blinded

x2 for having a direwolf at youre side

x1.5 for having a wolf, snowbear, eagle, shadowcat or brownbear at youre side, x1.25 for boar crow or dog

x2 chosen by rhllor

x1.25 favored by rhllor

Score Aegon the conquerer

x16 for being a formidable warrior, x2 for being brave, x2 for being strong, x2 for using a valyrian steel sword. total factor= x128

Score for Ser Arthur Dayne

x16 for being a formidable warrior, x2 for being brave, x2 foor being a duelist, x2 for using a valyrian steel sword. total factor x128

Well damn. Not always easy to take 2 random characters from this mod and come to the point that they have equal chance to win. Arthur is a better sword, and Aegon is somewhat stronger, in the end it should be equal, one will likely die but it's 50/50 as to who.

The 2 men would like eachother though in this game, they have very simmilar traits and in this game that esults in good relations and even friendship.

I thought they would be 50/50. The mod lists Dawn as a VS sword though. It was forged from a meteorite so I don't know how that would stack up against VS.
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I can calculate the odds as how they would be in a duel in the game of thrones mod.

First of all the personal profile's of the combatants:

Aegon the conquerer:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97664399/Aegon.jpg

His traits from left or right (traits are the little icons under the main stats next to the characters picture)

Aegon is:

-a brilliant commander

-a dragon rider

-strong

-formidable warrior

-owns valyrian sword blackfyre

-a knight

-ambitious

-diligent

-just

-proud

-sceptical

-brave

-authorative

Sir Arthur Dayne

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97664399/Arthur.jpg

Ser Arthur dayne is:

- a dutifull commander (not so good a strategian as Aegon the brilliant commander)

- a formidable swordsman

- a knight

- owns Dawn the valyrian sword

- is a kingsguard

- is a duelist

- temperate

- brave

- diligent

- patient

- proud

- just

- sceptical.

Each candidate has a percentage of chance that he will win in combat determined by a number of factors as noted below. All factors are counted toghether and at the end we can devide ones factor of chance by the other to determine who has more chance to win.

Factors

positive is x (multiply), negative is / (devide)

x2 poor warior

x4 trained warior

x8 skilled warrior

x16 master warrior

x2 owns a valyrian steel sword

Physical

x2 strong

/2 weak

x2 genius

x1.5 quickwitted

/2 imbecile

/1.5 slow

x2 for being tall

/2 for being a hunchback

/2 for being a dwarf

/2 for being clubfooted

x2 brave

x2 wroth

/2 craven

x1.5 deceitfull

/1.5 honest

x2 ruthless

x2 for being a duelist

/2 from being wounded

/4 from being maimed

/999999 for being crippled

/2 for being ill

/4 for being infirm

/6 for having a plague like for ex. bloody flux

/30 for being blinded

x2 for having a direwolf at youre side

x1.5 for having a wolf, snowbear, eagle, shadowcat or brownbear at youre side, x1.25 for boar crow or dog

x2 chosen by rhllor

x1.25 favored by rhllor

Score Aegon the conquerer

x16 for being a formidable warrior, x2 for being brave, x2 for being strong, x2 for using a valyrian steel sword. total factor= x128

Score for Ser Arthur Dayne

x16 for being a formidable warrior, x2 for being brave, x2 foor being a duelist, x2 for using a valyrian steel sword. total factor x128

Well damn. Not always easy to take 2 random characters from this mod and come to the point that they have equal chance to win. Arthur is a better sword, and Aegon is somewhat stronger, in the end it should be equal, one will likely die but it's 50/50 as to who.

The 2 men would like eachother though in this game, they have very simmilar traits and in this game that esults in good relations and even friendship.

If you go east with Aegon he gains Favoured then Chosen by R'hllor, so it really depends on a lot.

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Monarchs don't have enough time in the day to keep up with the training regimen of a dedicated fighter. Especially a monarch who also needs to maintain decent dragon riding skills, another time sink. Where the hell would he find the time to also be a sword fighter on the level of Arthur Dayne? There are only 24h in a day and 7 days in a week, you know...



I'm sure Aegon was a decent fighter and that references to his prowesses are not 100% based on ass licking toadies saying what's expected of them, but the notion that Aegon could defeat someone like Arthur is rather ludicrous to me. It's like saying that a Fortune 500 CEO who is fit and trains as a MMA fighter in his spare time could take on the UFC champion in his weight division. Yeah... That's not happening.


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Dayne would win 99 times out of 100. Aegon has no advantages in fight.

Aegon is stronger while Arthur is more of a proffesional swordsman. Extra strenght is an advantage, Aegon would have been a great swordsmen wielding a great sword with loads of power behind it, sure Arthurs move's would be a bit better, but he would have to handle heavier blows than he would be used to or be able to deliver himself.

We don't know much about Aegon when it comes to personal combat, but don't be fooled by that. You don't conquer a kingdom being an amateur at stuff like this. Aegon did not have the least bit of fear doing what he did, he would have faced those who challenged him i presume, it seems to me that he would have need to be rather confident in his skills.

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Monarch don't have enough time in the day to keep up with the training regimen of a dedicated fighter. Especially a monarch who also needs to maintain decent dragon riding skills. Where the hell would he find the time to also be a sword fighter on the level of Arthur Dayne? There are only 24h in a day and 7 days in a week, you know...

I'm sure Aegon was a decent fighter and that references to his prowesses are not 100% based on ass licking toadies saying what's expected of them, but the notion that Aegon could defeat someone like Arthur is rather ludicrous to me. It's like saying that a Fortune 500 CEO who is fit and trains as a MMA fighter in his spare time could take on the UFC champion in his weight division. Yeah... That's not happening.

Good points but in the prime of his life Aegon was a great warrior with a VS sword who rode the back of a massive dragon and kicked ass. I assume he went into battle with his men before resorting to the dragons at the Field of Fire. We have no idea what kind of training he had but he was a Targaryen so he probably had the best training money could buy.
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