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  1. Lion of the West

    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    I'll just smile, nod and move on.
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    Should Martin have ended the War of Five Kings?

    Oh, how cute! No. You see "plot" is the narrative sequence of a story and how according to cause and effect different events in a story affects other events in the same story. Its very common in writing. Such as? No. The lesson is brougth home by the use of a POV of Reek/Theon which allows us to see how awedul and inhuman this kind of conduct is an how deeply it affects a human being Don't worry. I do not hold it against you that you do not understand this. I can absolutely imagine that many primitive and bloodthirsty individuals see it this way. I can't even make out what you're trying to tell me here. Certainly in Gondor, most likely in Andor and probably pretty fast in Aloria. But not in Westeros as demonstrated by the events in the books. Well I'm happy you like something about Asoiaf.
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    Discussion of the real world history behing ASOIAF

    Thank you. I think we're on the same page now.
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    Westeros is NOT medieval Europe

    EDITED: Forget about it.
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    Unowned lands and keeps

    Welcome, necromancer! What brings you to Westeros? The thing with Tywin is that, if I recall, he is acting as Hand of the King so his actions there wouldn't really tell us much of what he can do when he is "only" Lord Paramount.
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    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    Let's just say that I disagree strongly. Stannis going to battle in a fight he can possibly win and getting defeated would be a far more dignified and suiting manner than him going out as a guy who has lost all touch with reality and effectively committ sucide-by-Others. That particular oath is not for kings to nullify.
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    Magical Drogon going to revive Daenerys

    I understand that you are upset and all that. But take a deep breath and say after me: "This is only a TV show, life will go on." And then repeat this as needed.
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    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    I don't see how Jon can become a major player if Stannis isn't defeated and killed by the Boltons. If Stannis takes Winterfell and destroy House Bolton, then if the show's unifyingof Danaerys and Jon will take place, Jon will sit around at the Wall and do nothing while Stannis leads the way either against the Others or Lannisters. If Stannis is defeated however, then suddenly Jon becomes the main mover in the North and we already know that the Boltons, if Stannis is defeated, have their sights on Jon. Now it may be that Stannis and Jon can switch places through a really convoluted set of events, but that would make no sense to me and take away from the message on House Baratheon on how infighting and division leads to destruction, just as the Stark kids probably will come into a better position than either Lannister or Baratheon because they kept themselves on the same side and didn't turn on each other, despite both Baratheons and Lannisters having much better shots at becoming the top House than the Starks really had.
  9. Lion of the West

    Should Martin have ended the War of Five Kings?

    Oh, how cute! Because Ramsay is a very craft and exploitative individual and because he is needed in both the story to be an enemy in the North to the Starks after Robb has left, and also perhaps have a role to play in the events in the North after the Red Wedding. We still haven't got the final two books to we don't know how the Bolton story will end, or not end. That ignores Theon's position. Theon is in a doomed position so priority number 1 is always get out of a situation where you are facing certain death by whatever means you have at your disposal and through whatever oppertunities presents itself. Theon is offered a one-in-a-million-odds chances to turn the tide, seeing no real way out of his situation he tries with this chance and the rest is what happens. No, it was a very a part of the story to both bring some truth to what people crying for torture, blood and violence on criminals/wrongdoers is asking for. There are certainly bloodthirsty individuals but most people will have enough humanity in them to be sickened and favor a humane treatment without bloody punishments also of wrongdoers. Wrongdoers should naturally face justice but we shouldn't lose ourselves to base bloodlust and cruelty in response to suffer wrongs or hurt. That is, I would think, the message of Theon's torture but also for reasons of the plot and story. Problem is that you have just described how it comes that Ramsay can do this and how it plays out. First Ramsay keeps his, activities, to the Bolton lands and targeting the smallfolk. And once he moves beyond it, and definietly after he targets Lady Hornwood, there's an uproar and it gets both Rodrick and the Manderlys moving to stop him. After that Ramsay is kind of hate and survives by being in a position of strength to protect himself from violent ends to this life. I don't even understand what you are ranting about now.
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    Discussion of the real world history behing ASOIAF

    The highlighting is done by me and I make no claim to be an expert on this subjects but there are a few things I'd like to comment on. For the first thing it seems to me that King Arthur is indeed a creation to bring medieval romance and perhaps some grandness to their own pre-literary history. But I would think that from my knowledge that it was also a way for England to intergrate itself with the Continental feudal world and that King Arthur past from only being something for the English to something for the Catholic feudal world in general, just like the Paladins of Charlemagne seems to have done so in that they and their stories seems to have spread beyond England and France respectively. If King Arthur was only for England or of interest to the English, for example, then I would imagine that Chrétin de Troyes, Marie de France and Robert de Boron, all French, would not have bothered to write about the Knights of the Round Table and King Arthur. In regards to Aquitaine I would actually think that GRRM isn't so specific as to make the Reach inspired by a certain region of Europe. He may have taken some inspiration from the literature and popular perception of medieval France. But I doubt that he cared much for the division between France and Occitania, various regions within France or Occitania or such things. In my opinion the Reach has to little direct reference points with Aquitaine to say that its that specific region that's is being the main inspiration.
  11. I feel I must ask a question on this. Were the Wildlings really looking for a better life south of the Wall as opposed to just flee their homeland and escape the White Walkers? People thinking the grass is greener on the other side and then finding out that it wasn't so isn't unheard of in my experience.
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    "Bittersweet" can't happen in the show

    You are reading a series which isn't about the reader feeling good for five minutes before you move on and forget about the story or celebrating bloody violence on "the other side" without consequences. I won't know for sure what the story is for me until I've read all the books but I think that I know that GRRM wants to engage his readers on a more intellectual level. But we'll have to wait until we can know for sure what the story is ultimately about, and very probably the meaning of the story will change with the reader.
  13. While we can make fun of this, its not like people like the Byzantine general and emperor Nikephoros II Phokas or the Finnish sniper Simo Häyhä were albinos despite being named as "White Death". But I agree that Balerion's scales should be black, but perhaps they artists decided that black wouldn't make enought of a contrast with the other colors in the picture, or something.
  14. Some people got worse ends than they deserved and some got better. Kind of like life actually. So I don't complain because this is a thing which I would love to see more of in fantasy.
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    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    Sansa becoming the ruling queen of Westeros would be really, really cool and certainly an even better ending than what we got. Although I see no reason as to why the realm would fracture or why a "balance of power" as the one after Napoleon would be good or better than how it turned out in reality.
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