Ser Snowflake Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was lurking on another thread where a poster was pointing out the irony of Theon commenting about Hodor that no one could say that he didn't know his name only to become a shell of a man who constantly have to remind himself of his new name.Another case of irony that comes to mind is the story of how Ser Jorah became an exile. Because of his love for a woman, Ser Jorah broke his vows of knighthood and the laws of the kingdom by selling slaves only to get exiled by his new love interest who besides her dragons is most known for freeing slaves. Isn't it ironic...don't you think? GRRM is excellent at using irony as a plot device, and I was curious of any other examples I may have overlooked in my four re-reads so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmartell Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Catelyn Stark doing all she could to receive guest right for protection and watching how the RW turned out comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Snowflake Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Catelyn Stark doing all she could to receive guest right for protection and watching how the RW turned out comes to mind.Yeah that's a good one. Another one that comes to mind is the fact that during Robert's Rebellion three Starks died south of the neck.......that's the same amount of Starks who died in the South during the WOFK. Heck the only reason I believe Benjen, Bran, and Rickon will survive is that they are the only Starks remaining in the north.Oh and welcome to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field of Asphodel Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Robert recruits Ned to be his hand specifically because he wants an honest man. He complains that half the people in KL "don't dare tell [him] the truth, and the other half can't find it." Of course, given how probable R+L=J is, Ned's guilty of keeping arguably the most consequential secret in the realm from Robert. Later, Ned finds the truth, and twice chooses not to tell Robert - first by betraying his discovery to Cersei first, and second by not telling Robert the truth as he was dying. The first decision (to tell Cersei) triggered the series of events that lead to Robert's death, so ultimately, Ned's shying away from his duty to tell Robert the painful truth killed Robert. Then there's the fact that Robert is the biggest liar/self-deceiver of them all, failing both to find and confront the truth of his "children's" parentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StannisBamfatheon Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 My giant of Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melonica Stormborn Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Another case of irony that comes to mind is the story of how Ser Jorah became an exile. Because of his love for a woman, Ser Jorah broke his vows of knighthood and the laws of the kingdom by selling slaves only to get exiled by his new love interest who besides her dragons is most known for freeing slaves.And of course, Ser Jorah also became a slave momentarily. He's branded as well, so he can't hide his being a slave for a time. At the top of my head: "Jaime Lannister sends his regards." I'll probably come up with more later, when my head clears a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melonica Stormborn Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Oh, and Catelyn always forbidding Bran to climb because he might fall. The next thing you know, Jaime has pushed him from the tower because he did exactly what Catelyn told him not to do and saw what he wasn't supposed to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Snowflake Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Tywin getting caught with ShaeCersei being in love with crown prince of a dynasty known for incest.Sam of House Tarly being the first person that we know who has killed an other. House Tarly's words are First in Battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Ser Allister Thorne fought to the end trying to defend the Targaryen dynasty and was given the choice of death or the Wall. The his treatment of Jon Snow when he comes to the Wall is amusing seeing as Jon is likely the scion of the Targaryen house for whom he fought so hard and long for.I always find that humorousIt did come about but if Jaime had taken the Hand of the King duty. A Hand without a hand, Just an add on to the above comment on how Sam Tarly is the most cowardly person in these books and he is the only one to have killed the fiercest and most revered 'monster' in the series, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko99 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Sam of House Tarly being the first person that we know who has killed an other. House Tarly's words are First in Battle.OMG I really like this one, never really notice it. The Slayer is a good "Tarly" after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear Us Roar Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Also House Tarly sigil is a huntsmen... and Sam would have died in a hunting accidentGreatjon's sigil is an unchained Giant, he remains chained at the Twins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyPounce Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was going to say Tywin getting caught with Shae but a previous poster beat me to it. What a hypocrite.Jamie crippling Bran, thinking it's better to die a clean death than to live as a cripple, than becoming somewhat a cripple himself.Janos Slynt being instrumental in Ned's beheading, only to lose his head at the hands of Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear Us Roar Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 As to the shae thing, Tywin was not anti-whore, he was against the idea for Tyrion because he often fell in love with them and did things like bring them to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyPounce Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 As to the shae thing, Tywin was not anti-whore, he was against the idea for Tyrion because he often fell in love with them and did things like bring them to court.I disagree. Tyrion only fell in love with his first wife, who was not a whore. Tywin always had a problem with him being with prostitutes and acted like this was beneath the Lannisters. He also treated his father's mistress, in Cersei's words "a woman of this sort", in a despicable manner. Cersei believes Tywin had no use for whores and that he never touched a woman after his wife's death. He's acting like his moral standards are above everyone else's when they're clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come Try Me Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Theon Greyjoy - Betrays the Starks and then is betrayed himself, by a "suppose" vassal of the Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Flandrensis Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Brienne, so in love with Renly that she pledges her life to guarding him, finally holds him when he's been killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was lurking on another thread where a poster was pointing out the irony of Theon commenting about Hodor that no one could say that he didn't know his name only to become a shell of a man who constantly have to remind himself of his new name.Another case of irony that comes to mind is the story of how Ser Jorah became an exile. Because of his love for a woman, Ser Jorah broke his vows of knighthood and the laws of the kingdom by selling slaves only to get exiled by his new love interest who besides her dragons is most known for freeing slaves.Isn't it ironic...don't you think? GRRM is excellent at using irony as a plot device, and I was curious of any other examples I may have overlooked in my four re-reads so far.The Theon one was me (well, also me - there were probably others).And I agree that the Jorah one ironic-deluxe when he eventually becomes a slave.Brienne, so in love with Renly that she pledges her life to guarding him, finally holds him when he's been killed.Not sure if that's irony or just more likely because of the job description.[/Fry] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Flandrensis Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Not sure if that's irony or just more likely because of the job description.[/Fry]Then you've never been in love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
only me Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Sansa marrying Tyrion (who is even uglier than the Hound). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelle Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 All those mentioned so far are ironic but if I had to go for the Biggest case of irony in asoiaf it would be Rhaegar Targaryen knighting Gregor Clegane. Not only because, the epitomy of beauty, kindness, nobility and all that is good and just and fair in the world made a knight out of Gregor, a ruthless, rapist but also because Gregor was the one who killed hiscdren and raped and killed his wife during the Rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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