The Doctor's Consort

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  1. This is a thread where we can collect all foreshadowing and clues from the books that point to Jon and Val ending up together for reasons that further the plot of the main story. This thread is not for the debate of theories brought together here, which are based on text, SSM's, and interviews; it is only here to list clues and foreshadowing. There are several other threads in the General section of the forum that are for debate purposes. We also invite you to link us all the theories that you feel deserve to be included, as also to give us feedback of what we might have missed.
  2. It doesn't look like that. I have read his PoVs carefully and I have seen his struggles to do the best that he can no matter what result it will have to him. You may say that the fact that he cares about others is what make him boring, I say that this is what makes him the leading male character.
  3. So you hate him and I can understand hate but that is not the same with him being one dimensional character. His conflicted thoughts and moral dilemmas prove that he isn't a one dimensional character
  4. You really believe that Jon is one-dimensional character? Have you missed his PoVs?
  5. If they had maybe but we don't know if they did and since the Valyrians were not the only that had dragons I don't see how they are. After all at least the First Men seems to also have magic genes and the Durrandons had Gods' genes. Then why they didn't rule over themselves and they went to rule over common people?
  6. The reforging has already started, by understanding the vows, as to the sacrifice I always thought that it will be Ned's lessons to Jon about idiotic close minded honor.
  7. No, the High Septon did it to secure his niece's title. Fine.
  8. High Septon's niece, Ceryse Hightower, was the first wife and a second was was a threat to her, her title and her family. Especially since she hasn't given birth to a child something that a second wife could had done.
  9. Maybe it isn't even a weapon but a group of people. I believe that the Night's Watch is Lightbringer.
  10. I don't think that it is an actual sword but Jon is AAR.
  11. Polygamy was never illegal because it wasn't mentioned in the books. Personally I don't care if Jon is trueborn or not and I don't care if someone claims that the Targs have a claim at all.
  12. To answer about the sacrifice someone have to ask why a background character will end up being the Hero at the end. In any case, I don’t think that AAR has to reforge his Lighbringer through sacrificing anyone or that his sword will need to be reforged. Let alone a background character becoming the ultimate Savior.
  13. There are no text proofs to point at this. Heck even Hazzea's father wanted to blemish Drogon's reputation he would had done it in front of others, he didn't. Even Dany herself admits that it was Drogon only Shavepate thinks that he wasn't the one to blame.
  14. No one disagrees with that. The point is that the Targs were morally wrong to deceive the rest of Westeros in order to use them.
  15. You can believe whatever you want, the fact is that we have examples of the Seven being present at the North before the Targs and the fact that even under the King of the Isles and the Rivers the Riverlords were not forced to follow the Drowned God pretty much prove that you are wrong. After all religion was a tool at their hands and it is proved that they never trully followed the Seven. If they had followed them they wouldn't had broke their law.
  16. Only the Targs never gave up anything.
  17. Well five is a a lot of people. Most likely they are all BloodRaven.
  18. That is the proble. The majority of those hypothesis are based on other hypothesis which are based on their turn are based on other hypothesis and not at the text. They have distorted the meaning of the text in order to serve their claims. As I have said before they could say that Robb will be the next Sword of the Morning just because he said "Good morning.".
  19. The Faith didn’t stop caring; they were forced to accept the Targ abominations but that doesn’t mean that the law changed. Just like the rest of Westeros, they were forced to accept the Targs as their ruler but once they were free of them no one cared about if they were alive or dead. There is nothing in the books that mentions that polygamy was ever illegal so even if they give it up, which isn’t a fact, they gave up something that was never illegal.
  20. That isn't an excuse for their deceit or their sins. If someone is corrupted and breaks the law but gives some money to charity he is still a criminal. Same with the Targs, they were breaking the law and they were not respecting anything and anyone while thinking that they were Über Humans and no one else was good enough.
  21. Nice excuse for madness.
  22. You mean Baelor the Befuddled who had his sisters imprisoned and while he knew the laws he did married one of them?
  23. Again, here we discuss the book series not the youtube videos. If you want for someone to have a serious discussion with you then you should do the same. Find quotes that support your claims and then people will do the same. You cannot post a vid and expect for people to actually care enough to discuss seriously with you.
  24. Then why he hadn't attack the Targs? Without Aerys' and Rhaegar's actions there would had been no Rebellion.
  25. Maybe the Valyrians have taken a lesson from real world history about freedom and work?