dsug Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 As we know, Cersei's children are all destined to die. Joffrey and Myrcella have bit the dust. All that's left is Tommen. Here's my theory. Tommen has already showed signs of severe depression toward the end of season five over the arrests of Cersei and Margaery (never leaving his room, starving himself). After Cersei's walk of shame, Tommen I'm sure will feel much worse. Eventually, the High Sparrow will execute Margaery. That will push Tommen over the edge. His wife dead, his mother gone crazy, his sister, brother, and father also dead, the stress of being a king, etc.... I believe Tommen may kill himself. The show is definitely dark enough and it would do a lot to progress Cersei's arc. Maybe he finds out his mother is responsible for his wife's death, and it's just too much for him. Imagine Cersei entering his room for whatever reason, only to find him hanging from the ceiling. I know it's dark, but I feel like it's a possibility. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delight Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Have him pull a Selyse, hmm. Well, if that does happen I probably won't laugh hysterically like I did with Selyse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis is the man....nis Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I agree that Margery will die but for some reason I think Tommen will be the valonqar and in a shocking moment he snaps and straggles Cersei while KL goes up in wildfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crannog-Mage Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Have him pull a Selyse, hmm. Depending the way you look at this sentence, it could mean Tommen burning Ser Pounce :stillsick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoracchius Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I agree that Margery will die but for some reason I think Tommen will be the valonqar and in a shocking moment he snaps and straggles Cersei while KL goes up in wildfire Oh lord, I had not considered that possibility. At this point, I'd sort of assumed we were getting Cleganebowl and the valonqar would be Sandor (defeating her champion, Gregor, and effectively sealing her fate), but Tommen snapping and killing his own mother is an even more intriguing possibility. Wow, nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron Velar Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Oh lord, I had not considered that possibility. At this point, I'd sort of assumed we were getting Cleganebowl and the valonqar would be Sandor (defeating her champion, Gregor, and effectively sealing her fate), but Tommen snapping and killing his own mother is an even more intriguing possibility. Wow, nightmares. There have been several theories and topics of Tommen being the valonqar aka the little brother killing Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsug Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 There have been several theories and topics of Tommen being the valonqar aka the little brother killing Cersei. I think that could be cool, but how can Tommen kill Cersei if he's already dead? Maggy made it very clear that Cersei would watch all her children die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalCount Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I think that could be cool, but how can Tommen kill Cersei if he's already dead? Maggy made it very clear that Cersei would watch all her children die. Just ask Waymar Royce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTowerOfJoy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I think that could be cool, but how can Tommen kill Cersei if he's already dead? Maggy made it very clear that Cersei would watch all her children die. As a wight? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTowerOfJoy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Seriously though I think it will be the other way around. I think Cersei will poison Tommen and set King's Landing on fire when it's clear she can't hold King's Landing anymore. Jaime will be there and find out what she did and will start to strangle her, but as they struggle, they'll fall from the tallest tower to their deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Seriously though I think it will be the other way around. I think Cersei will poison Tommen and set King's Landing on fire when it's clear she can't hold King's Landing anymore. Jaime will be there and find out what she did and will start to strangle her, but as they struggle, they'll fall from the tallest tower to their deaths. Seems quite likely I think this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTowerOfJoy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Seems quite likely I think this one. Thanks, I like the idea of them falling from a tower to their deaths after what they did to Bran. Also the tie in to what happened with the Mad King is just too good to resist, and the foreshadowing of Cersei burning down the Tower of the Hand. Not to mention the hints that they came into the world together and will leave it together as well. Though the Valonqar prophecy does mention "hands" and say she will have the life choked from her, so it's not an exact fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He is already suicidal if he is on a hunger strike or simply out of grief. If he gets Marg back but she all of the sudden will not have him anymore due to a "conversion", then that may push him over the edge as she seems to be all he wants in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTowerOfJoy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It would be hilarious though if she poisoned Tommen, and he came back as a wight and strangled her to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalCount Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It would be hilarious though if she poisoned Tommen, and he came back as a wight and strangled her to death. Given the wording of the prophecy I don't see how anything else could be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thanks, I like the idea of them falling from a tower to their deaths after what they did to Bran. Also the tie in to what happened with the Mad King is just too good to resist, and the foreshadowing of Cersei burning down the Tower of the Hand. Not to mention the hints that they came into the world together and will leave it together as well. Though the Valonqar prophecy does mention "hands" and say she will have the life choked from her, so it's not an exact fit. To be honest I don't really hold much with the prophesy idea being that important. It would then suggest that events in the world are controlled by an external force... which is basically a bit shit. The prophesy works so far because its become so self fulfilling. Its hard to say what prophesies actually are however and how they relate to magic. I mean if you burn a leech and then someone falls off a bridge... whats the mechanism that makes that work. All I'm saying is that I don't want there to be some over riding god figure or fate entitiy controlling things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Tommen's father's not dead. And why pull another hanging when Selyse already did it last season? But suicide is a possibility. IF Margæry indeed goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambi76 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Newest spoilers have Tommen convert to the FM together with Margaery, to Jaime's great annoyance and Cersei's horror. Marg has taken all that she holds dear now. Joff (via poison), Tommen (via FM) and Jaime because dude has had enough with her/KL bullshit and fucks off to the Riverlands. I could see Marg in peril if Cersei puts the Sept on fire and Tommen tries to save her, dying in the process too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Newest spoilers have Tommen convert to the FM together with Margaery, to Jaime's great annoyance and Cersei's horror. Marg has taken all that she holds dear now. Joff (via poison), Tommen (via FM) and Jaime because dude has had enough with her/KL bullshit and fucks off to the Riverlands. I could see Marg in peril if Cersei puts the Sept on fire and Tommen tries to save her, dying in the process too. Would that mean Tommen would forsake the crown to join the Faith Militant? That would entail part of his becomming one of them. Foresaking all riches, titles and property. The Iron Throne would be vacant. If Stannis had only retreated back to Castle Black and waited........ What a Monarchial Crisis that would create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queen of meraxes Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The golden hand of Jaime in Dorne scene last season can be a foreshadow of strangling power of him.They should die together.Falling from a tower would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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