Jose Stark Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Im the biggest supporter of the Stark but do the northern lords want them back at Winterfell in command of the North? Yea they are honorable and beloved but their foolness lead to them putting the entire north in civil war a s it seems like to big an effort to put a Stark back in WinterfellI just think at this point some of them want the Boltons and Freys out of the North and call it a day....What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yes, the North remembers.If you read Dance carefully you'll see that none of the Northern lords at Winterfel are happy about the Boltons and the Freys. Especially not Manderly, he just bakes pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Manderly Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 To the Northmen the Starks are the only legitimate rulers of the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well seeing as most of them are camping outside Winterfell agianst Roose and the Freys, when they could be with Roose, and those that are with Roose aren't happy with him; and possibly plotting against him, I'd say yes they want the Starks back.The North Remembers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yes, they want. You have Lyanna Mormont's letter to Stannis and Manderlys tak to Davos as proves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fallen Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 ` Add to that the Clans. Im the biggest supporter of the Stark but do the northern lords want them back at Winterfell in command of the North? Yea they are honorable and beloved but their foolness lead to them putting the entire north in civil war a s it seems like to big an effort to put a Stark back in WinterfellI just think at this point some of them want the Boltons and Freys out of the North and call it a day....What do you think? I wouldn't call what they did foolishness. Ned gets arrested and Robb calls his banners. All the northmen answer because they feel that the Starks, and by extension the entire North, has been dishonored. The northmen themselves were the ones who proclaimed Robb as their king. It seems to me that the northmen were all in on the Starks. And the Boltons were the ones who started a civil war by trying to murder the two princes, destroying Winterfell and massacring Robb and his most loyal bannermen at a wedding. I would say that the has shown that they want to restore the Starks as Lords of Winterfell (and Kings in the North?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal99 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 No, I think people are pretty content with Boltons ruling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 In the Theon chapter where Roose and Ramsey meet at Barrowton, Roose explicitly states that the northerners found out that Bran+ Rickon were alive, the only northern house of any note that would support the Boltons would be the Dustins, and only because Lady Dustin hates Ned for the loss of her husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profilebegone Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yes, the North remembers.If you read Dance carefully you'll see that none of the Northern lords at Winterfel are happy about the Boltons and the Freys. Especially not Manderly, he just bakes pies.Definitely.More importantly, House Stark has ruled the North for millennia. Which is not so much to say that they are entitled to do so, but more like "there's no way the War of Five Kings was actually the worst cock-up the Starks have pulled in continuously ruling a vast nation longer than any actual historical dynasty on Earth." There's a deeply-rooted history and legitimacy behind House Stark, and "oops Robb Stark lost a war and hi my name is Roose will you be my subjects now? Robb was totally going to lose anyway, guys" is not really going to dislodge that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profilebegone Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 In the Theon chapter where Roose and Ramsey meet at Barrowton, Roose explicitly states that the northerners found out that Bran+ Rickon were alive, the only northern house of any note that would support the Boltons would be the Dustins, and only because Lady Dustin hates Ned for the loss of her husband.Which, of course, could itself be a bit of a feint - she may resent the Starks, but enough to justify Bolton rule in the North? Note the whole chapter with her having Theon lead her down into the crypts, and look less at the words than the actions. Why go to all that bother, just to look at the graves of people you hate? Why dig for over half-an-hour in a snowstorm, unless maybe you heard a tale that two young Starks and their posse were hiding in said crypts for some time, and were searching for evidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 the only northern house of any note that would support the Boltons would be the Dustins, and only because Lady Dustin hates Ned for the loss of her husband.What about the Karstarks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Ah, forgot about them, but technically only Arnolf and his branch of the family was all for throwing in with the Boltons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profilebegone Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What about the Karstarks?You mean House Thenn? :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds of Winter blow cold Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What about the Karstarks?I think Jon has them back on track thanks to Alyse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 You mean House Thenn? :smug:I think Jon has them back on track thanks to Alyse.This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I think Jon has them back on track thanks to Alyse.You mean House Thenn? :smug:Forgot about Alys' wedding sorry :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fallen Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What about the Karstarks? It would have been interesting to see if the Karstarks would have let bygones be bygones now that Robb is dead. I'm referring, of course, to Rickard Karstark's son, not the uncle trying to usurp Karhold from the legitimate heirs. Alyse Karstark seemed to have set the enmity aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 The North wants the Starks back but they do not know that any exist except for a few houses. Glover, Manderly and probably Umber. They fear and distrust the Boltons due to their sinister past, Ramsay's evil deeds and if they find out that it was Roose who stabbed robb personally, they will tear him to pieces when they finally "let loose" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Yeah, they certainly do.Lyanna Mormont throws We know no king but King in the North, whose name is Stark to Stan's faceWyman Manderly plots to put Rickon as WF ruler and calls him "my liege"Robbett Glover collaborates with Wymanmountain clans insist Stan goes to Winterfell because of Ned's little girlwhen threatened, Alys Karstark goes to last son of Eddard StarkRoose Bolton himself believes Northern lords will abandon his cause when Stark boys show upif you believe Great Northern conspiracy theory, almost all Northern lords are running a great scam to defeat both Boltons and Stannis just to put Stark in the WF again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Luke. Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I'm pretty damn sure they'd rather be ruled by Starks than by Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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