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  1. There was always evidence of daenerys possibly being like her father, as much as I didn't want it to happen, I knew it was a possibility. In S1, she watched her brother, the only family she had left, get his head melted off and she didn't care. At the end of that season she burned a witch who followed her orders to death just because she didn't get exactly what she wanted. The idea that she could go full "Mad Queen" faded in the middle of the series Bc she had what she wanted for the moment. In Meereen she was a Queen, she was loved by the people at the start, they welcomed her because she liberated them. Daenerys loved feeling like that, she loved the power. She had a naive view that when she returned to Westeros that the people would welcome her just like the people of Meereen did. But she didn't realize that Westerosi are different. They all still remember what her father did, did she seriously think they would just accept a complete, foreign stranger as Queen just because she declared it? She can't turn up in Westeros and declare herself Queen and expect everyone to just accept that, she realized that soon enough. Then, when she found out that Jon was a direct threat to her throne, things got way worse, she became obsessed with trying to keep it a secret, she was jealous of him because he was already loved by the people of Westeros. She knew if people found out who he really was they would prefer him to her. Then of course, there is her loosing all her allies, first Jorah dies and then Cersei executes Missendei, all her enemies were still alive but her friends were getting smaller and smaller, that was the final straw. It became more about avenging Missendei death than conquering Westeros. She had the city, they surrendered, but she carried on burning all those innocent people anyway Bc she no longer cared about them. She even said as much to Jon, they don't love her, so why should she love them. She became everything she always triednto avoid, its very sad but its not unforeseen. She destroyed the city she wanted to live in, she destroyed the castle her ancestors built, she destroyed the throne she wanted so badly for so long, and she definitely gave up being Queen, because there is no way that will happen now.
  2. This episode was very revealing for me. Firstly, it was another visual masterpiece, and the direction as far as visuals go was top knotch. I disagreed with some areas of the plot, but they are never going to please everyone so I'm not gonna get all defensive and critical. Im glad Cersei is dead, but I do wish it had happened in a different way, and as much as I knew Jaime was always going to die with her, I wish he didn't. I'm sad Jaime is dead, he really was an incredible character, and I went on quite a journey with him. He didn't deserve the end he got after everything he went through. Didn't expect Varys to die so quickly, it did seem a little rushed, but I guess everything has to be on the show. I have so much respect for Tyrion for trying everything he could to stop Daenerys burning the city, he even betrayed her to do it, and he tried to spare Cersei, even after everything she done to him! He is a truly good person who genuinely cares about people, and not just people he knows. I just hope he doesn't die because of it. I think Jon has finally realized that Daenerys is beyond help. She doesn't care about anyone. She wants the throne and she will do anything to get it, too bad she pretty much destroyed it. There will be a stand off between those two in the next episode, Jon needs to stop hiding behind her, he knows who he is, he knows he could rule far better than she ever could and people will follow him. No one will follow her after she burned an entire city to the ground when she didn't need to. She lost the minute she decided that a burnt city with dead people was better than a practically untouched city with people who hated Cersei almost as much as she did. I'm disappointed that she done this. Shes no better than Cersei now in my eyes. I think Arya could be on her way to kill Daenerys, she missed out on Cersei, but she saw the damage Daenerys done to that city and she believes Jon will make a better King! If anyone can kill her she can, and I hope she does!
  3. Re- Dragon stone. I don't know why they didn't occupy the castle, meaning Daenerys would have to flee elsewhere, further from KL. Rather than just ambushing them on their way, it would seem more tacitical to occupy it.
  4. I don't want Daenerys to sit in the throne. But I do want her to win. Cersei is all that bad, she will destroy anyone, innocent or otherwise to get her own way, in some ways Daenerys is quite similar. But Daenerys winning means Cersei is off the throne. With all of the people fighting on Daenerys' side, one of them would make a much better ruler. Cersei doesn't care about the 7 Kingdoms. She cares about herself and her power. Thats it. Daenerys claims she does care, but its hard to know she means that right now.
  5. Yeah, she wants the throne, she doesn't want to share it. She believes its her birth rite, but the thing is, it's actually notnher birth rite anymore. So now her main goal is to take the throne as quickly as possible before it all comes out and ruins her claim. Bc more people in Westeros will support Jons claim over hers and she knows it.
  6. Im surprised at how stupid Daenerys was thinking that they could just return to Dragonstone. Of course Cersei was going to have some sort of measures in place they for if they tried to return! Jaime was originally being smart when he decided to stay at Winterfell, but Cersei has always been his one weakness. I don't think he will go running back to her, not after everything she's done. But they do have unfinished business. Maybe he has finally realised that she is no good for him. He was happier with Brienne for one night then he seemed with Cersei for all those years. I can see Daenerys point about Jon not being able to control what happens if the truth about him came out, but at the same time, she doesn't have the right to make him hide who he is. He has done that for years already. I'm glad he told Arya. I wish he hadn't told Sansa Bc anyone would have guessed she would go blabbing to Tyrion. I'm assuming thats how he found out anyway? I feel a bit sorry for Gendry. I think he just got really excited when Daenerys legitimized him and probably took it a little too far by proposing to Arya. Maybe after she's killed Cersei? Daenerys seems to be losing this war. I know Missendei wasn't exactly important in the war effort, but she was Daenerys most loyal advisor, if killing anyone would make her want revenge, its her. Cersei is twisted. She is so desperate to hold onto the throne that she doesn't care if there is no one left to rule over in the end. Problem is, Daenerys wants the same, so that could make for a dangerous combination. Tyrion is sticking by Daenerys now, but I think maybe he secretly thinks that Jon would make a better ruler. Jon will never take the throne while Daenerys is alive. Also, is that all Arya gets? A thank you from Daenerys and a cheer? She killed the Night King, I think she deserves more recognition than that. Even Jon argued that it was Daenerys who saved them. C'mon man, it was Arya who saved them.
  7. 8/10 A solid episode with a nice return the this side of the story. So many points to discuss.
  8. Yes, the Night King wants an endless night, to erase the living and all memory of the world so far, Bran is the worlds memory, so he is the best person to kill, as it will erase most of the memory of the world.
  9. Well yeah, there is still the inevitable war with Cersei to come, Bran would be invaluable for that, considering how unpredictable Cersei is.
  10. Yeah me too, I like Daenerys, she has always fought for her people, it maybe wasn't as heroin as all that, as it was a case of fight or die, but still many would of chose death, so she should be applauded for that.
  11. He's the 3-Eyed Raven. He has the power to see everything that has ever happened and everything currently happening. Are you telling me that he wouldn't be important to have around when at war?
  12. My thought exactly. I think its so cool that Arya killed him, and certainly something I didn't see coming, I thought Bran was a goner, and then I thought Arya was a goner too for a second. The Living fought as one, they all played their part.
  13. To try push them back before they get inside the castle, which if you can help it, you don't want the enemy to get inside.
  14. Well it was either pick up the sword or die, it was hardly a difficult choice.
  15. I think well find out more deaths next week. Last week saw of Jaime and Brienne they were being ravaged by Wights so we don't know at this point if they survived.
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