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  1. Hmm. I really like this theory. I too think that the Others do not cause the Winter. If the Ohters can transform Craster's sons into Others, then it would make sense that the, first men could have done the same.
  2. I have long thought about the possible origin/motivation of the Others. Can we get a backstory for them that will make us understand why they are doing what the're doing. So far it seems their mission is to bring destruction to Westeros. There will most likely be a twist on their true motivations, but what could it be? Were they created by the Cotf? Were they around since the beginning of time? We see in the prologue that they are intelligent. They seem interested in Waymar Royce, and there are theories that they could be looking for Jon Snow. But why? Are the Others waiting for a leader, another night's king. I would like to see Stannis as their leader. Since they can't speak the common tongue, how will they interact with the human characters? I don't see how they could negotiate and form a pact like they supposedly did in the past. Are the Others meant to be more of a wake up call or concept than they are villains? I think the Others will be defeated 3/4 of the way through ADOS. I think their purpose could be to get our protagonists to realize that the iron throne and politics aren't important. Or they could be more of a concept, like a driving force to make men pay for their sins in the past. I would like for them to be more independent, and less a hive mind. Maybe some of them don't want to fight, or have different goals than the others. I doubt we'll get to know them individually since they speak a different language. Lastly, how can they be defeated in a satisfying way? Will Jon Snow wield a flaming sword? Will Dany's dragons overcome them? WIll Bran's weirwood abilities have something to do with it? It's implied the final battle could be around the god's eye. Does anyone have any ideas on a way they could be defeated that makes sense, and feels tonally consistent in the story? TWOW will definitely fill in a lot gaps, but for right now, we know barely anything about them.
  3. What theories/story ideas are surprising you by the amount of attention they are getting? Theories that you think will never happen in the actual story. 1. Daenerys never makes it to Westeros. 2. Jon is N+A=J 3. Bran is hooked to the weirwood net, and never leaves the cave. 4. Arya stays in Braavos. 5. The Others win/we never see the outcome.
  4. What theories did you originally think were dumb, but now are dying to see? For me: 1. Jon is King in the North. 2. Euron is the third head of the Dragon. 3. Shireen burns to resurrect Jon. 4. Drogon burns the iron throne. 5. Stannis is the night's king.
  5. Okay. Yes, I agree. I mean it's a well thought out theory, but I can't imagine reading that in the books and not thinking it was cheesy or out of place in the story.
  6. I'm not entirley sure what you mean, but I am saying that I DON'T believe that all of the Bran's are 1 person. I think Bran will just mirror the legendary Bran the Builder by rebuilding Westeros after the Other invasion.
  7. I actually really enjoyed reading this theory. I have always been confused as to how everything could pan out with the North, the Others, and Stannis. I've always been opposed to Stannis becoming a night's king figure, but I would like it if it happened this way. I agree Bran will be leaving the cave soon, the people who think he'll stay there forever are just not thinking about how the story needs to wrap up and come together in the end. I've always supported the idea of Jon going north of the wall to save Bran. The only difference I feel, is I think Jon will be king in the north, at least at some point in the story. I think he will marry Dany for an alliance. As to how I think Bran will factor into the story, I recently made a post about how Bran will help rebuild Westeros after the threat of the Others.
  8. Melisandre POV: "Show me Stannis Lord. Show me your King, your instrument..." "A face took shape within the hearth. Stannis? She thought, for just a moment... but no, these were not his features. A wooden face, corpse white. Was this the enemy? A thousand red eyes floated in the rising flames. He sees me. Beside him, a boy with a wolf's face threw back his head and howled."
  9. There are some Bran theories that he will use the weirwood net to go back in time, and become all of the Bran's in history. I don't think that's true. Old Nan does have remarks about how she confuses all of the Bran's. I think that Bran like the legendary Bran the Builder will help rebuild Westeros after the threat of Others and Dragons destroy it. Bran's direwolf is named Summer. All of the Stark direwolves names relate to the future of their owner. I think Bran's relates to him rebuilding Westeros once winter ends, and Summer begins.
  10. One of the 3 lies that Dany has to slay from the HOTU. "A great stone beast takes flight from a smoking tower, and breathes shadow fire" (paraphrasing). I have 4 different ideas of what the stone beast could be: 1. Greyscale- This could be Jon Connington spreading greyscale in kingslanding. The shadow fire being metaphorical for the spreading of greyscale. 2. Euron- The other 2 lies, Stannis and Aegon are claimants to the throne, so it would make sense that the 3rd be Euron. Maybe he steals one of Dany's Dragons. The shadow fire having something to do with his magical abilities. 3. Tyrion- The great stone beast could be referring to a gargoyle, or greyscale growing from inside of him. We have heard many times, that Tyrion casts a large shadow. 4. Jon- Him being ressurected by burning Shireen could make him a "Stone beast". But I don't think Jon could be one of the lies, since he's probabally R+L=J.
  11. I never said once the Others were a super evil army, that the characters are going to beat, and win metals. I didn't go into great detail on them, because we don't know anything about them really. I don't think there's going to be a happy ending. And who says Dany and her dragons are the good guys? Grrm was inspired by the Fire and Ice poem, where it's stated the world could be destroyed by ice or fire. The protagonists losing in the end isn't bittersweet at all. My prediction is there will be a big sacrifice to defeat the Others, leaving the reader curious as to whether or not what they did was evil or not. Come on, do you really think we won't see dragons vs Others. That would be very anticlimactic. The story has been building to this since book 1, when Dany had a dream of fighting them on the trident.
  12. It's likely the long night will begin at the end of TWOW, and throughout most of ADOS. How long in time will that take? It definitely won't be an entire generation, but if it's too short then it will feel less impactful. So how long will it last? I think it could be a 5-10 year period. The books state a long summer means an even longer winter, and the last summer war 9 years. We know Grrm wanted to have a time jump after ASOS, to age up the characters. Since that didn't happen, I think the last book will span over many years. I think TWOW will end with the long night beginning, and there will be probably a month time jump in between books. ADOS, I think will last years. There's a lot of plot to cover, and this could be a good way of covering it, and not making it feel rushed. We can see the characters get hardened by the winter, and really mature. Children can be born and die in the darkness like Old nan says. I want the long night to feel grim and hopeless. An example could be like similar to Endgame, we have a battle for Winterfell, and everybody feels it's their last hope. Then Winterfell falls, and is overcome by the Others. Maybe the next chapter skips a couple years in the future, and we see the characters hopeless looking for anyway to win. Something similar in tone, I think would be nice. The time jumps would also be good for having characters travel all over Westeros in logical ways. Say after the battle for Winterfell have Jon or Bran travel up to he heart of Winter and make a big discovery, as well as having everyone meet at the trident for the final battle against the Others. There's a lot of discussion about a possible romantic relationship between Jon and Dany. I agree it would feel rushed in one book, so having it take place over many years would feel more authentic. This would also bring home the title of A Dream of Spring. With the characters being hopeless over say a 10 year period. Do you guys think this is possible?
  13. Exactly. She is far from irredeemable. Her arc is about identity. She started out as the only character who knew exactly who she was, and wasn't afraid to be herself. Then she was forced to hide her identity, and be other people, she joined the faceless men, and hear we are. She is struggling with her identity, and is almost lost, but deep down she'll never give up being Arya. Needle is proof of that.
  14. 1. Like Jorah said, the people of Westeros don't care who sits the iron throne, as long as there is peace. Aegon will steal the "Targaryen who comes to save Westeros" role from Dany. Does he deserve it? No. But it will most likely happen. I don't think the people will be swarming to Daenerys because of her 3 dragons. She can't control them, plus she is the mad kings daughter. The unsullied might not be a problem, but the Dothraki are definitely coming to Westeros. This has been built up since book 1. The Dothraki finally crossing the sea. Come on it's a chekov's gun type of deal. 2. "All of the problems would have gone her way if they had cooperated". Well yes, but they didn't. It's not that simple. Westeros isn't going to cooperate from the start either. Dany is doing the right thing, but so did Ned ad look where he ended up. She escaped an assasination attempt, and has been captured by dothraki, I wouldn't call it a victory. 3. This is ridiculous. You really think Grrm would have Tyrion travel ALL THE WAY to Mereen to meet Dany, and in the end not have it happen. They are both headed in the same direction, why not have them team up? You expect to have 2 different storylines with Dany and Tyrion with 2 different parties heading back to Westeros at the same time. That is a waste of time, and this book needs to start combining storylines if its going to resolve in 2 books. Quaithe also told Dany to beware of the lion, so they will definitely meet. Who's going to take care of Mereen while Dany's gone. We know how Barristans been doing at it. 2 dragons set free and a dead Martell. Tyrion is set up perfectly to negotiate will the slave masters and settle everything, because he knows what needs to be done. Dany won't like it, but she'll have to accept doing things the hard way. 4. The game of thrones isn't going to come to a complete halt because of the long night. There's too much plot left unresolved. There are multiple people with plots to take the throne right now. Varys, who supports Aegon. Doran, who's going to blame Dany for the death of his son. The North, who wants to be independent and doesn't care about the iron throne at the moment, Euron, who Dany will never side with. And littlefinger, who's busy with Sansa. There's not a lot of support left for Dany, which is why she'll be forced to help the North, in hopes of them joining her. 5. I said going forward. I'm not saying she's a bad person, but there's no way the Dothraki will follow Dany unless she burns the Khals. She's probably the stallion who mounts the world, and will burn down cities all over Essos. Quaithe basically told her, "okay, you tried to be nice and that failed. It's time to be a dragon". That's her current mindset. I highly doubt the books will end with Dany returning during the long night, saving everyone with her dragons, and then having the people of Westeros hand her the throne.
  15. Okay? Can you please explain? I actually don't dislike any of the characters, POV's at least. I make my predictions based on what I think makes narrative sense, and what I think is being foreshadowed. Tyrion is my favorite character, and I gave him a really dark ending. Also, there's a lot that can be overlooked in just summing up a characters arc in a paragraph or two. Do you think Arya being forced to kill her own mother is a happy ending? That would be one of the saddest moments in the entire series. Or her going around killing people who have wronged her. Yes, I think she'll give it up in the end, but that doesn't mean everything will go great and she'll be living a perfect life. Grrm originally titled ADOS as A Time for Wolves, and I believe the Starks will come out on top, this doesn't mean they end up happy or without consequence. Martin also said he wants a bittersweet ending, similar to LOTR Scouring of the Shire. I've posted my take on that if you've read it. The books aren't going to end with the Others destroying Westeros. Please, elaborate on this because I'm genuinely curious of your opinion.
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