Theda Baratheon

It does say in the book that they’re forbidden from digging laterally. They’re only allowed to continue digging deeper. Which does pose the question how much further can they dig and I’m no expert but what of value are they even digging at this point. But yeah, it does heavily imply the silos are very close together in the book and that the mines are not dug sideways

I just finished the book and I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that apparently they can only mine down, down, down. They aren’t allowed to mine sideways as that is forbidden. The silos really are pretty close together! Kind of makes it all that much more tragic and frustrating!

Hmm okay I’ll give it a go. I want something that visually looks incredible and has some actors in I like. I won’t get my hopes up for than that! Thank you

For someone who hasn’t read the source material - Is it a good science fiction show worth watching?

it’s Jimmy now!

Just finished the first book!! Damnit - now an even longer wait for the rest of the story when I finish the other two books anyone else just read it?! I must discuss hahaha

Sorry you’re dealing with it too, mate. Luckily I kept the long walks up because I have a very active young dog so even when I was pretty bad I was making myself do daily long walks in a flat area. I never did yoga but think I could incorporate that from my living room. I desperately want to get back to my gym routine that I had maintained for months but I’m genuinely terrified of this post viral fatigue turning to chronic fatigue and don’t want to push my luck. I’m not very good at listening to my body. I often go a bit too hard and burn out/injure myself when I’m first getting back into fitness after illness (recently realised I’ve been having these illness and wellness cycles for the last few years so probs need to investigate that one day) thanks all - appreciate your advice

Yes the framing of that scene was a little confusing! Or maybe he revealed more than he should have on Twitter and they were keeping it vague for a reason? I think they just didn’t quite edit that clear enough tho

Anyone have ideas for exercises to do with long covid/chronic fatigue?? I’m terrified of getting worse but I’m so frustrated because I had started getting really fit again prior to getting ill & I actually have the motivation for once (just not the strength lol)

Hugh, the author, did a Silo TV Q&A last night and was able to answer a few things that aren’t big spoilers. bernard didn’t turn the screen off. I was also hoping that was the case because it would have been quite interesting to question why. But she was just out of range. At the time she is stood still I think so that confused a lot of people but I suppose there was only so long the screen in the helmet was going to work.

Then they’ll hopefully be lots of new viewers who have just binge watched season 1 without reading

Is there a Silo thread in the Literature section? I’m sure there’s a few of us starting the books now and it would be good to talk through them with others. I’ve just started and already feel like there’s a difference in how I’m perceiving some things!!

I also agree with some of the theories above thread about some of the social engineering and perhaps even there being something in the silo air. Most people aren’t thinkers, they aren’t curious. Curiosity is the most dangerous thing in this world. But of course there are always a minority who are curious, who do think and dream and imagine. Those are the dangerous ones.

Damnit!! Now I’m going to go ahead and do this - I bought the books a few days ago but haven’t read the blurbs yet. okay before I do I better blurt out all my crazy theories so I can come back here and see how right or (much more likely) how completely WRONG I was!! OK- I don’t think the air is toxic (anymore…) I think the poison is from the ‘decontamination room’ - I have no idea why the goal is for people to die as quickly as possible but maybe it was initially seen as a kindness so they don’t go outside and die slowly and painfully all alone. I initially thought Bernard didn’t know about the other silos but the more I think about it the more it seems like he just might. My initial thinking was due to the fact that the door at the bottom of the silo felt like it was news to him, or maybe he just didn’t know the extent of what George (and Jules) had uncovered. I think the door connects to tunnels that link up to one another. I don’t think the silos are all exactly the same, societies would have changed and adapted and evolved in different ways despite the stringent wishes of ‘the founders’ - I think some of the silos failed so they’re filled with decaying and long dead bodies, totally devoid of life. I think some silos are probably even better than 18 which potentially more equitable societies. I think some solos are even more authoritarian and classist. as for why the silos were originally built - ok I’m really spitballing here. ‘Founders’ has a vaguely colonial religious feel to it but I think ‘extreme religious doomsday cult builds underground bunker to avoid the apocalypse’ is a bit over done. So I like peoples theories about it being a prison initially. I also thought it could have been a long running social experiment by some mad billionaire or something half way through the season but that’s when I thought it was ‘nice’ outside. Now I’m really so unsure…with so many of them, close together, it makes me feel as though this was build to preserve humanity from some kind of disaster but the absolute SCALE of the silos and the work required to build them means a lot of time and planning which sort of dispels the quick build something to survive the disaster theory. another theory - they aren’t even on EARTH. The punishment is to MINE at the bottom of the silo, providing that’s the same as the other silos it could be that they were initially mining for resources on another planet and the silos were built because humanity can’t breathe the air above on the planet. That’s wacky theory territory but there was something quite alien about the last shot of the series… I think it could be very far in the future. Rather than only a few hundred years away from present day. as for what I think jules might do - perhaps try to contact one of the other silos? They’re all so close together. One of them would surely let her in but what then? try to make her way to the ruined city looking place in the background of the shot. It looked like it could possibly be in walking distance but perhaps not enough air time for her to get there and she’d pass a lot of silos on the way. who knows if there even is an outside society out there already who may collect her when they notice she’s walking around for longer than usual (there weren’t a lot of bodies outside the silo, maybe they get moved or it really doesn’t happen often that people go out to clean) I think Waller is going to tell people about the tape and there is potentially going to be another rebellion in silo 18. I have no idea what the huge area beneath the silo with the digger will end up being but I mentioned what I think it leads to. Maybe that great bug digger thing is an old space ship or something lol. Anyway some crazy thoughts before I devour the books and learn how wrong I am about everything haha!! I absolutely haven’t been this gripped by theories and excitement for a new show since season one of Westworld

Thank you - I didn’t quite get that. I need to rewatch the episode in the dark as mum and I were watching it in the sunny midday because we couldn’t wait!! But as a very dark show I think I’ve missed a few little things like this!!!

Book readers probably smiling knowingly at all these comments hehe. Bloody hell, I’m gonna read them!!

Yeah I’m getting hung up on that myself. I don’t have an answer for that… did anyone see what looked like a city in the background?! Do we think anyone is in there or it is completely abandoned.

OMG. I hadn’t even thought of that either…maybe!! im wondering if they’re like Fallout Vaults though, with some of them being empty/fall of the dead after failed rebellions, anarchy. And whether some of them are much nicer than Silo 18, if some of them are even worse etc. or if like you say that they’re all connected save for Silo 18. do you think Bernard knows? I think he knows a lot but I don’t think he knows everything and I’m convinced yet that he even knows there are other Silos.

Omg noooo!! I didn’t think of that at all! THE DOOR!! the DOOR at the bottom - OMG it must lead to tunnels that connect up to the OTHER SILOS. They’re so close together!! ahhh!!!!! I’m reading the book I’m so hyped up about this I MUST know

LOL - I’m the same as you, I can wait a week but not a year. Off to the books I go!!! OMG. One thing I did NOT factor in was that there could be MULTIPLE silos. I didn’t even dream of that at all. where is Holston and Becker?! I need to know!!!

Oh yes. I see those young chaps as being victims to predatory creeps. That doesn’t excuse any violence or assault that is committed by the few that take these beliefs to an extreme, but I really do feel for any young, vulnerable people being exploited.

I do think the characterisation of Simms has been a bit all over the place. One minute he’s a family man, noble protector of the Silo and the next he’s a sadistic prick.

I honestly truly empathise with a lot of these young men. Feeling frustrated, lost and being given an easy answer. With better education & critical thinking skills they will hopefully see through this stuff. Or hopefully enough of them will. It is a bit too easy to fall down the angry route of calling everyone a misogynist or an incel. I’m as angry as the next woman about violence against women and all the negative thinking that can lead there. BUT - there is a real issue with young men and BOYS being preyed upon by POS grifters exploiting their pain and frustration. I’m not sure what bigger societal changes need to be made to attempt to stop this, but it’s a much bigger problem than just one man.

I really hope that the vast majority of these young chaps outgrow the Manosphere grifters. But Tate is just one head of the hydra and as he falls, more will take his place. they are purposefully preying on young insecure men and I just hope and prey that these young men grow out of this advice, see it for the cynical money-making BS it is, and don’t become the next Tate.

I mean…big disagree from me I suppose lol. I think having an authoritarianism = bad and freedom = good message is pretty evident for this show but I very, VERY much doubt that’s the ONLY thing it has to say. I enjoyed the last ep again but still tearing my hair out at the constant cliff hangers!! Overall really loving this show though. Lots of little loose threads but I’m not so worried about them because it has already been renewed for a second season so I’m hoping they’ll be addressed. Like why was Shirley’s file important? What does she or the down deep have to do with the rebellion? What is the syndrome? At the moment I’m in a place where I’m trusting the show to get to all of these threads in its own time. is the next episode the last? Not sure what a big change we can have in one more episode but I’m bloody well looking forward to it!