Shpati

I know... lmao. The show runners really dropped by ball.

They couldn't have made that finale worse if they tried.

FFS, most Stannis fans like myself are mad that they did this so damn early. To get Winterfell? He burns his daughter? Please.... This is an indication that Stannis will die much sooner in the show than in the books. Heck, I have a feeling that the show will kill Stannis next week (by Brienne most likely). I myself hope they go ahead and be done with it. They already butchered the character.

What I was thinking as well. I can see them burning Shireen if there is a bigger obstacle to overcome. But Winterfell does not equal winning the 7 Kingdoms. It doesn't equal beating the White Walkers either. It's freaking Winterfell. No offense, but the Starks and the North are done. Only the Boltons are strong. Stannis burned his daughter to win some old warriors (all the good ones died in the South) and wastelands? Please.... The show burned her way to early. I can also understanding Mel doing it on her own.

It's not like he burnt his daughter for giggles.

+10000 GRRM said it himself "Characters will die in the show that don't die in the books". I truly think this is the case here. The show runners needed a "2 birds [something that beats the winter and gives shock factor] with one stone" to give Stannis some advantage. They ditched the mountain clan storyline. So killing Shireen was kind of a shortcut that will give another "WTF Moment" that they build the show on.

+1. It's not D & D's place to say this is exactly from the book ["Stannis burning his daughter and watching"].

I don't know which NW brothers will stab Jon, but Oilly is most likely one of them.

I don't he meant it like "you're not a woman, you're a girl". I thought he meant it as a joke as "you're not a woman, you're a man" because of her tomboyish look.

I don't think she is a child. Her IMDB page might be misleading because it has an old picture of her and no age. But Google says she's 19. I don't think HBO go that far now...

But why would she? Imo, she's been through enough that she must realize she has to get out of her pickle alone. She won't receive much help, especially from the likes of Theon. And if it was the broken tower, Ramsey would've taken another finger/toe or something for Reek betraying him.

Right now, I think that Sand Snake will use Bronn like Arianne used Oakheart in the books.

This is what I thought as well. Where Ramsey was sitting didn't look like a tower at all.

They kind of make Sansa too stupid in the show. In the books she was a young lady influenced by songs and tales. I don't know why she would go to Theon for help. I could understand if Theon told Sansa the truth about her little brothers, but Sansa still believes he killed them, and she thinks she can get Theon to do her dirty work by calling him "Theon Greyjoy" as if she believes there is great honor in that house. It just doesn't make sense to me. The scene with Bronn and the Sand Snake was lame imo. Was Stannis trying to make one of those black ghosts again, or did they actually show a horny Stannis again?...... Everything else was really good. I thought Aemon and the HIgh Sparrow were the best parts. The actor who plays the High Sparrow nails every scene. EDIT: I also thought the Gilly rape scene was stupid too. I thought there was no need for it, since there was a rape scene last week. It's a little much and a cheap way to implement shock factors.