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  1. That's without a doubt, and while speaking to Trees is pretty nifty, it's a bit cooler when the tree speaks back This is some real Damascus Road shit, except even scarier Yea my heart went to Theon in regards to Ned in acok, in adwd Ramsay nearly snapped it. Theon deserves more. A LC or king of Iron Born, defenders of the first men with three arrows vs the mad kings daughters children. It's all romantic and would construct a magnificent arc. But, I may have, and you and most of our fanbase, can forgive Theon for the millers children, but Bran won't. Not that Brans a vengeful Cersei like creature, but idk, this Theons road to Damascus, he sees the light (or doesn't? I'm not really comfortable with the story. Not Christian) so why's he justifying himself? Like deadass? This is the prophets takeaway? I think Theon needs a little more growing up to do, and should unlike Hodor but more like Aeron, accept his heinous past and fully dedicate himself (like fully submit, more hardcore then praying to Pyke five times a day) to the glory of God, basking in his skinchange (which is such a fucking depressing/beautiful arc) Nice pick up on Hodor not knowing his name and Ramsay referring to Theon as a dog!
  2. This is new to me too, but I've thought other similar things and making Theon Brans prophet fits nicely into my theories. First of all, let me just say this is great. Killing Bran only to bring him back to life is just fantastic. So Aeron and Meli, Thoros, maybe even the Sparrow they all deeply feel the presence of God, but Theons chatting with him, honestly it's not even a question of if Theons gonna be a prophet, it's what's he gonna do about it? Or really, what's Bran gonna do about, and what do Starks do? Skinchange. Summer was easier then the birds, puppies are naturally submissive and get trained to obey, that's why Hodor the loyal stableboy was possible to skinchange into. Now what on Brans green earth is more submissive then Reek? Yea so not only do I think Theons hearing the voice of Bran and will probably spread it, but it might be Bran directly speaking through Reek, more like an instrument then a human
  3. What do you want to read? Romeo O Romeo? Pete ain't like that. But the fact is he does react to the RW but like any other Sansa chapter he spits nothing but fire because the author is like that . "They have the Vale." "Oh, much of it, that's true. Not all, however. I am well loved in Gulltown, and have some lordly friends of mine own as well. Grafton, Lynderly, Lyonel Corbray . . . though I'll grant you, they are no match for the Lords Declarant. Still, where would you have us go, Alayne? Back to my mighty stronghold on the Fingers?" She had thought about that. "Joffrey gave you Harrenhal. You are lord in your own right there." "By title. I needed a great seat to marry Lysa, and the Lannisters were not about to grant me Casterly Rock." "Yes, but the castle is yours." "Ah, and what a castle it is. Cavernous halls and ruined towers, ghosts and draughts, ruinous to heat, impossible to garrison . . . and there's that small matter of a curse." "Curses are only in songs and stories." That seemed to amuse him. "Has someone made a song about Gregor Clegane dying of a poisoned spear thrust? Or about the sellsword before him, whose limbs Ser Gregor removed a joint at a time? That one took the castle from Ser Amory Lorch, who received it from Lord Tywin. A bear killed one, your dwarf the other. Lady Whent's died as well, I hear. Lothstons, Strongs, Harroways, Strongs . . . Harrenhal has withered every hand to touch it." user uploaded image "Then give it to Lord Frey." Petyr laughed. "Perhaps I shall. Or better still, to our sweet Cersei. Though I should not speak harshly of her, she is sending me some splendid tapestries. Isn't that kind of her?" The mention of the queen's name made her stiffen. "She's not kind. She scares me. If she should learn where I am—" "—I might have to remove her from the game sooner than I'd planned. Provided she does not remove herself first." Petyr teased her with a little smile. "In the game of thrones, even the humblest pieces can have wills of their own. Sometimes they refuse to make the moves you've planned for them. Mark that well, Alayne. It's a lesson that Cersei Lannister still has yet to learn
  4. But this isn't his first game, young Eddard had no problem with picking up his steel and crafting a better world. The strict Targaryen rules of succession meant nothing for him as he strived to end the madness of KL. Now his plan is to reject all assistance and give KL to Stannis. Ned liked to say Robert changed, it's probably true. But Ned changed as well. I think turning down Renly was one of his only correct decisions. I also think, despite Cerseis claim, that Sansa didn't really participate in the downfall of her father.
  5. 1. Yea maybe. Idk, Bolton gets a lot of flack because of their sigil, and the two lovely characters of asoiaf, but I don't really see them as the historical ultimate badguys. But mainly because of this quote which puts the whole North as suspect Anyway, in terms of military might, Karstark looks pretty strong too. 2. Lyannas promise is the poisoned tree. Ashara and Brandon is just the classic talking to your spouse about the love of your life, understandably uncomfortable. Idk Deep Geeks theory but if it has anything to do with Benjin and the birth of Jon, I don't think I want to lol. 3. In hindsight it's fun to paint Duskendale as treason, especially since (iirc) immediately after sending Glover and them he goes out wolf hunting which is pretty ominous to say the least. (But Gloves was all gung-ho, only wise commander Robb saw the whole campaign as ridiculous, after the fact) But it's not really practical since we see Roose talking to Jaime much later demanding assurances from KL, as if his minds not made up
  6. I was distracted yesterday, but the overall message is the same, I don't care what our universe thinks, they're wrong sometimes But we know better, besides Jon saw he was mentally unstable and Eddard seemed to agree. Later he yells at his wife, kills Lady, keeps his daughters in jeopardy, etc. Dude, I know you like Eddard, but the author clearly didn't make him a paragon of virtue Except he didn't, right, that's the reason for this discussion? Tyrion tells Young Griff that a king shouldn't trust anyone. What's the alternative with Glover? Ramsay doesn't conquer the north? Walder doesn't murder everyone? How does the fact that Roose is second in command affect his betrayal?
  7. They remind me of Doran but not as bad. But they definitely used their kids to further their political aspersions, with Arianna it's fine, just mental issues, with Quyntin less so. The Stark girls are somewhere in between Not the best grandfather. Davos was a good dad, until they died. I like Wyman too and I'm also thoroughly and suprisngly impressed with the guardianship of Griff and Bronn. But shout out to Mysha. You know, the human children, not the ones chained up in a dungeon
  8. I dislike Trump but I'm currently watching day 4 of the investigation and it seems like lots of people in our universe like Trump despite his clear cut atrociousness. Writer has him execute an innocent mentally unstable person in our first meeting. I definitely do not see him as a paragon of virtue. (Brienne and Davos are the goody two shoes) None of Cats business No, he got into that position because in Westeros the options are extremely limited so it's either Roose or Greatjon, who would have totally decimated half of the northern army the first day. (Probably Tyrion too though)
  9. We should be so lucky Nah, Wyman. No, he is not. Um... Can't hurt Well, Ned was a terrible ruler, father and human being so I think it's more practical to pick one of those options then suggesting the author wrote an impossibility Like Ashara? The stories of Brandon Stark? The regifting by Benjin? There's lots Cats in the dark about. I don't see the correlation, Roose murdered Robb with his own hand, not with half of Robbs army
  10. I think I was also then (in between s1 and 2) Idk, I'm kinda frustrated that like, theyre milking the fuck outta this, sure I am! I saw agot, I read those two encyclopedias, I plan on watching the new show where I already know the story just like I plan on watching the adventures of Jon Snow. I'm sure it'll be terrible, they all are. But asoiaf is amazing (dunk and eggs ok), obviously it'll be better when it's finished and detrimental when it's not, but I don't think that should take away from what's already written. I mean it's difficult to tell, but I'd bet reading (and re,re, reading) asoiaf changed my life, I think the points already been made. Although tbh I kinda think more and more what's the point about, well, here. Lol
  11. @frenin Word. Not sure Roose was Neds most powerful vassal, nor do I find it impossible for Jon to have been taught something and Robb not, although it is a suspect for sure. (Also not sure why Cat wouldn't be in the dark, she only seemed to get back into politics when Ned left) But it's totally possible Robb knew his dad's theory but that was pretty overshadowed by Old Nan's theory I don't understand this line of thinking anyway, Roose only reluctantly betrays Robb after his son conquered Robbs kingdom and his father in law guaranteed his death
  12. Word, I'd be full on Kraznys. The line I like is what is dead may never die, which can only mean Theon (Nah bro. You got this.) Cool connection! Nice pick up! Word, this is my thinking as well. GRRM created an entire world, but actuallyonly one castle matters. He also expanded on our pov giving us insight in the dynastic powerhouses of Greyjoy and Lannister, but really, only one family matters. Fortunately for our two main Greyjoy and Lannister povs, they're practically Stark. And I believe will be the two main proponents of peace and stability in Winterfell Lol crazy ass Ironborn
  13. Reek Reek, it rhymes with (insert English word here) Ok, now I'm type curious. In translated versions of ADWD what words does Theon rhyme with?
  14. Lol these names. Yea we were discussing ii The V was the one with the goofy haircut? Agincourt and such? I know little about him, what's the deal with his wife?
  15. Nice! Thnx So she left her husband the king and traveled alone to become engaged with a man of few prospects? Damn that's a cool story, type romantic too. Sucks how their relationship turns. The life of Henry ii would really make a dope tv show. So iirc, Normans (or was it Henry's dad's neighborhood?) were sworn enemies with Aquitaine, on some Bracken/Blackwood shit. Or Targaryen/Blackfyre. It's a shame Aegon isn't more Henry like and joined the fueding houses in marriage. Although Henry was a Plantagenet because that's his dad's nick name so Young Plantagenet is kinda like Young Griff lol
  16. I'm seriously not a fan of any ancient Roman Emperor, or Richard III, I'm curious why you are. (About Richard, not like Trajan lol). John played the church like, well Henry; the eighth. (Not so much lol) But he was like gods servant or something after he robbed god blind. The pope kept on calling the magna Carta illigal. Its more the losses Oh yea. Strangled him personally. It's a fun story like Aegons but this time it's probably true. Yea I kinda like John lol, I agree that Henry Ii is arguably the best, most talented, lucky, whatever, but because his kids and wife were so Henry like they tarnished his legacy unlike Henry VIII who's kids did their best to tarnish his legacy but the last one managed to get things under control. (I don't wanna get into Tudors wives lol) I want to say it's because of his wifes support, but I'm not actually sure they were married yet, shame. It would have segwayed nicely Tyrion convinced him to not be a begger, because that's low class or whatever. Quentyn ribbits his way into a turncloak company though and Dany still offers him a dragon. 3 heads and all that. I completely agree that nothing's set in stone but, keep your dragon close should be, after you take one. Ok, so this is from a Rolling Stones interview (The rest of that answer is reasoning why we shouldn't cancel the racist fuck Woodraw Wilson which I agree with but we were talking about another racist fuck/great president FDR lol) Lol facts. Yea Americas totally been a war nation, I was just thinking that when I was talking to my brother on how historically China more or less stays in their boundary but Russia from inception to the czars soviets and oligarchs have been wildling. Kinda like America, just less years to work with. (Also the parallels of Russia's love of WWii is pretty striking too) So I'd actually say WWii is our second biggest war, the first being the civil. Another war where Washington had no inclination of taking the higher moral ground and where they were attacked first. But it was just warfare. Firstly because the south had no reason to secede and Germany and Japan had no reason to annex (history is confusing) but mainly because they were slavers and facists. But yea, calling everyone a Nazi and facist is a little too close to Russian parallels for me right now, so Viva La France? GRRM says Spanish American war was bad, why? because it was started by some capitalist who owned newspapers in America and land in Cuba and Puerto Rico? Lol. The propoganda and shady shenanigans was real no doubt about that, but was it different in revolutionary France? Fuck the old order and force democracy. (America didnt do a great job then, but then again neither did revolutionary France lol) Now forcing any nation is bad, for sure, but as Americas third greatest war, the revolution, was (not) about, fuck the old order. He reads a lot of Captain America That's what he gets from saving Tyrion's life lol
  17. Word. A good tale but filled with holes For sure, but it's all about their win to loss ratio. Christian scholars may have thought it badass to see Henry with a moutyfull of straw but when his son John did it they thought he was a psychopath. (Not saying John wasn't a psychopath). Henry was undoubtedly brilliant while John was not but Henry got delt a good hand in the beginning while John had anything but. Anyway, being a little wild can be politically sound, like Ramsay but also it can backfire like Cersei. But I agree its a blown up scene, I mean what kid likes losing? Very true. But remember why Young Griff lost the game? He didn't keep the dragon close. Even Quentyn understood that, (a little too well) Is he? He was anti Vietnam and probably Iraq and Afghanistan, almost definitely Ukraine. But like WWII? I think he's glad America stepped in. That vampire book he wrote about the pre civil war south pulled no punches in wanting to see it all burn, fire and blood I believe was the exact phrase. Oh he's got to, lol. It's too good. He's literally dying for his beloveds son. It's just so inaccurate on the point of hysteresy, except the greyscale bit that's accurate
  18. So this is what convinced me, Arianna is convinced the GC just want to go home. Viserys thought that once too But the GC don't want to just go home, they are united by the dreams of Bittersteel. And that's certainly not to put a red dragon on Daemons throne
  19. Id say this falls under the Solved Mysteries category
  20. Sure, the game gets transparent then and Tyrell will know they've been crossed, but Alayne isn't long for this world and Sansa will soon be coming back to the public stage. There's no game anymore, Sansa and LF will be enemies of the crown. By which I mean Tyrell Real relevant. Pretty much solidifies the fact that Petyr tried to kill Tyrion I'd think so, but I doubt it lol What Cersei wants, Cersei gets. Who crippled Olennas grandson
  21. Word that'd be more persuasive, but less funny. And I'll always take the latter first lol
  22. The poison had to come from Sansa. It's too much of a coincidence that Petyr mentions Thornes touching her hair, like she did. Although it is humorous to think her handmaiden actually did a bad job putting on Sansa's jewels because frankly Shae isnt qualified at all for her job. I'd think somebody just put the rock in the pie, probably some nameless Tyrell henchmen, this business of how fast an amethyst can dissolve, with 0.8 birds per scoop in a 3'x2.6' slice of pie, just confuses me. (You don't know what I'm saying because your unfamiliar with this discussion, but trust me, they do lol) Word, relevant quotes, nice! I'm pretty sure it's all Sansa tho, but I can see where your coming from. If anything, I'd say the solved mystery of what giant Sansa slays is in asos when she broke Roberts doll because he's a little brat
  23. Idk, they have no slaves there and a condition of their peace with Braavos was slavery would be outlawed, that sounds pretty anti slavery. It's my understanding that William the conqueror outlawed slavery in Angelo Saxon England, he wouldn't do that for no reason. But for sure, England later and specifically it's colonies had slavery. And yea even in Abraham Lincolns first campaign the term abolitionist was considered a radical and a term that's sure to upset the political spectrum, which is why he astutely never mentioned it. (Outright abolition, he did campaign on curbing all future slave states)
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