MyLittleFinger Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Rhaegar knew his army was outmatched, I'm sure he made it a priority to get Robert off his list as it would pretty much end the rebellion and the war. I'm also sure Rhaegar wasn't much of a idiot to charge against Robert with just a sword( though he did injure Robert badly) Rhaegar was a great jouster, maybe GOAT jouster, so I believe he was armed with a lance, with a sword as backup. He outnumbered Bobbert, Ned, Jon and Hoster at the Trident, had Mace Tyrell besieging Storm's End and the former Hand of the King neutral with all his forces. The only reason he was outmatched was because he ran into a better warrior (Robert), a better commander (Ned) and a better diplomat (Jon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfax Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Most of Rhaegars' army were new recruits fresh from Dorne and KL going against a experienced and hardened army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Trell Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Most of Rhaegars' army were new recruits fresh from Dorne and KL going against a experienced and hardened army. The Targaryens wouldn't have needed new recruits if all the Royalist forces didn't keep getting routed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Most of Rhaegars' army were new recruits fresh from Dorne and KL going against a experienced and hardened army. If he was worried about his piss poor army, he could always have asked politely and Macey Tywell could maybe lend him a few thousand more...and this one guy named Randyll the only guy to put a dent in Robert's unbeaten streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Stefan Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Didn't he bring his Horse and Lance? I doubt that the Heir to the Iron Throne was walking about with all of the green boys and recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Rhaegar had Barristan and Jonothor gather the the remnants of Connington's men, but a good amount of his men were made up of green men from the Crownlands and Dorne. His army was already losing before he fought Robert, and his plan to engage him in single combat was dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Rhaegar had Barristan and Jonothor gather the the remnants of Connington's men, but a good amount of his men were made up of green men from the Crownlands and Dorne. His army was already losing before he fought Robert, and his plan to engage him in single combat was dumb. Well you can expect more from the Prince Stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Rhaegar had Barristan and Jonothor gather the the remnants of Connington's men, but a good amount of his men were made up of green men from the Crownlands and Dorne. His army was already losing before he fought Robert, and his plan to engage him in single combat was dumb. Dumb because he lost. We know Rhaegar did well enough to wound Robert. Had he killed him, it might have damaged the rebels morale enough to route them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar I Targaryen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Well you can expect more from the Prince Stupid. He was just like Stannis, falsely led to believe that he had a part to play in saving world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleFinger Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Dumb because he lost. We know Rhaegar did well enough to wound Robert. Had he killed him, it might have damaged the rebels morale enough to route them. Running away would have had a similar effect I would assume on his own troops, hammered if you do, hammered if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 He was just like Stannis, falsely led to believe that he had a part to play in saving world. Wrong. Stannis still doesn't completely believe he is a ham AAR. Rhaegar on the other hand completely believed he was destined to be the saviour. Though i do get what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar I Targaryen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Wrong. Stannis still doesn't completely believe he is a ham AAR. Rhaegar on the other hand completely believed he was destined to be the saviour. Though i do get what you mean. Once Mance reveals himself as Rhaegar we'll get some answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Wrong. Stannis still doesn't completely believe he is a ham AAR. Gonna have to disagree with you here, but that's for another discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Dumb because he lost. We know Rhaegar did well enough to wound Robert. Had he killed him, it might have damaged the rebels morale enough to route them.It's dumb because there was no way the rebels would have stopped fighting at a Roberts death. Maybe the Stormlanders would've had their morale damaged, but not the Northmen, Riverlanders, or Valemen. Robert wasn't the leader of the rebellion. Killing him would've only delayed the loyalist defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 It's dumb because there was no way the rebels would have stopped fighting at a Roberts death. Maybe the Stormlanders would've had their morale damaged, but not the Northmen, Riverlanders, or Valemen. Robert wasn't the leader of the rebellion. Killing him would've only delayed the loyalist defeat. In retrospect as there were very few Stormlanders there it's not as good an idea as say targeting Ned or Jon Arryn. But routes can be contagious. If those men around Robert start to break it could spread across the lines. Even if he killed Robert and had to withdraw, it means that it's less of a victory for the Rebels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar I Targaryen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 It's dumb because there was no way the rebels would have stopped fighting at a Roberts death. Maybe the Stormlanders would've had their morale damaged, but not the Northmen, Riverlanders, or Valemen. Robert wasn't the leader of the rebellion. Killing him would've only delayed the loyalist defeat. Remember, there were some in the Stormlands that Robert had to defeat at the onset of the rebellion. If Robert were to die, they would likely have tried to sue for peace. If Rhaegar were able to remove Aerys from the throne and hold him accountable for his actions, the North might have found it within themselves to work with Rhaegar. All speculation, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Remember, there were some in the Stormlands that Robert had to defeat at the onset of the rebellion. If Robert were to die, they would likely have tried to sue for peace. If Rhaegar were able to remove Aerys from the throne and hold him accountable for his actions, the North might have found it within themselves to work with Rhaegar. All speculation, of course.Yes, all speculation. Personally, I don't see Rhaegar letting Ned or Jon off the hook. They were just as involved in the rebellion as Robert, and letting Ned live becuase he's Lyanna's brother would make him look unjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar I Targaryen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Yes, all speculation. Personally, I don't see Rhaegar letting Ned or Jon off the hook. They were just as involved in the rebellion as Robert, and letting Ned live becuase he's Lyanna's brother would make him look unjust. What the Mad King did to Ned and Lyanna's brother and father was fairly unjust though, he might be more reasonable. He said himself to Jaime that changes would be made when he returned from the Trident.. but he never made it back so we don't know what exactly he was planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 What the Mad King did to Ned and Lyanna's brother and father was fairly unjust though, he might be more reasonable. He said himself to Jaime that changes would be made when he returned from the Trident.. but he never made it back so we don't know what exactly he was planning.Yes it was. But Ned Stark would still need to be punished, as he fought an open rebellion against the royal family. Execution, or sent to the wall. Punishing the Baratheons but letting the Starks go would win him the enmity of the Stormlands and Jon Arryn for years. He also already has the challenge of having to keep both the Martells and Starks happy with the awkward marriage situation. Really, Aerys made things even more difficult for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 As soon the rebelling houses took up their weapons against the royal house there was no going back. The only two options were victory or death, especially with a paranoid nutjob like Aerys in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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