Daemon Blackfyre IV Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Has anyone ever asked George about her ?The name sounds Targaryen but the fact that she was saved from a Giant has me confused, I'm guessing George wrote it so early in chapter 15 that history changed a lot and he would rather we forget her.Really curious if anyone has any info on her or ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichael Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Well, in the story she was saved by Serwyn of the Mirror sheild, who lived thousands of years before the Aegon's landing, possibly before the coming on the Andals. We don't know all the kingdoms that far back, but since there was a giant involved it was likely in the north so there's a strong possibility that she was a Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Of Thrones Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Daeryssa did not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 it's an in-story fairy tale, the origins of which are likely nothing more than tales of Giants (that we know exist), with a large helping of creative license on the part of several centuries (if not millennia) of Bardic retelling of the story. Even in-story characters (Maester Luwin? Someone else?) remarks on how many of the legends are anachronistic, such as Knights long, long before the Andals. Which is not an uncommon phenomenon at all, putting stories in a context the listeners will understand is imperative, even if it does impact the accuracy somewhat, particularly over long stretches of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 tze thinks that the story of Serwyn was deliberately twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 tze thinks that the story of Serwyn was deliberately twisted. Seems likely, it wouldn't be the first time propaganda was used to downplay or obfuscate a weakness, or exaggerate a strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Blackfyre IV Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Interesting the Targish name was what caught my attention but she is obviously from the North and most likely before the Wall was built. When Sansa mentions her she also mentions Aemon defending Queen Naerys so i thoght maybe it may be a story that popped up later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 where did you find this name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It is the Targaryens trying to weave themselves into Westeros pre history . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Gibbons Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Daeryssa, I don't think, was a Targeryen, however she very well might have been. What we can determine from her name as the other story of Serwyn is that she is Valyrian, either a noblewoman such as Jaenara Belaerys, or a nobleman's daughter visiting Westeros as an envoy. We are told that Serwyn was from the Reach so it is reasonable to assume that Daeryssa visited Oldtown, likely with at least one dragon in her entourage. This dragon would leave behind an egg that would hatch into Urrax that Serwyn would later kill. Now we don't know whether Serwyn served the Gardeners or the HIghtowers at this time but he was likely a famed warrior.At this time there might well have been some giants living south of the wall, not many that's for sure, but maybe still a few. The children were still south of the wall in significant numbers during the Andal invasion after all. Maybe Daeryssa, a curious Valyrian noblewoman, sought out these giants and fell afoul of them, leading the Gardeners to send in their best man, Serwyn, to rescue her and improve their standing in the eyes of the Dragonlords. He is successful and returns Daeryssa to safety.In a recent set of theory videos by Preston Jacobs, he suggests that the Hightowers may have some Valyrian ancestry. This is where Serwyn having Hightower ties comes in. Oldtown would be very easy for the Valyrians to reach, as they seemed reluctant to go further west to Lannisport. Serwyn may have been either the Lord of Oldtown or heir to the Lord of Oldtown and in return for saving Daeryssa her got given her hand, thus explaining the Hightowers having Valyrian ancestry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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