Black Wolf Smith Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This is the 2nd x in less then a week I have seen this ridicules theory. 2 (out of many) of the major flaws in it 1.Jaqen left for Oldtown 2 books before Sam left the Wall. So unless he is clairvoyant, his target couldn't be Sam, but if he is clairvoyant then why wouldn't... 2.He would have gotten to Sam when he was in Braavos where the Faceless men come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fai Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 This is the 2nd x in less then a week I have seen this ridicules theory. 2 (out of many) of the major flaws in it 1.Jaqen left for Oldtown 2 books before Sam left the Wall. So unless he is clairvoyant, his target couldn't be Sam, but if he is clairvoyant then why wouldn't... 2.He would have gotten to Sam when he was in Braavos where the Faceless men come from. Go read the Jaqen is Pate theory. Jaqen -> Alchemist -> Pate Sam already made contact with Jaqen in aFfC "Show me your face." "As you wish." The alchemist pulled his hood down. He was just a man, and his face was just a face. A young man's face, ordinary, with full cheeks and the shadow of a beard. A scar showed faintly on his right cheek. He had a hooked nose, and a mat of dense black hair that curled tightly around his ears. Jaqen passed a hand down his face from forehead to chin, and where it went he changed. His cheeks grew fuller, his eyes closer; his nose hooked, a scar appeared on his right cheek where no scar had been before. And when he shook his head, his long straight hair, half red and half white, dissolved away to reveal a cap of tight black curls. Arya's mouth hung open. "Who are you?" she whispered, too astonished to be afraid. "How did you do that? Was it hard?" He grinned, revealing a shiny gold tooth. "No harder than taking a new name, if you know the way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys' kitten Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I always thought that one neat thing Sam might be there at the Citadel to do is help choose the next Grand Maester the way he helped choose the Lord Commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 To be honest, I find the idea of Sam, Jaime, Euron, or Theon dying early and maybe even at all in The Winds of Winter to be absurd. I appreciate your honesty, but respectfully disagree. Sam is a minor character, and expendable. So is Jaime, Euron and Theon. The major POV characters (still living) are Arya, Sansa, Tyrion, Dany, Bran and Jon. And even they are not safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think Sam will be assassinated and replaced by a facelessman. We (readers) won't know if it's Sam because we will get Jon's/someone else POV. Jaqen's gonna have to hit the milkshakes and carb-heavy snacks pretty hard to make it believable. Valar Morefudgesundaes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fai Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Jaqen's gonna have to hit the milkshakes and carb-heavy snacks pretty hard to make it believable. Valar Morefudgesundaes. I think facelessmen magic works with age, gender, race and physical build, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther2000 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Thanks Lord Lyman, Now I remember. I wasn't quite sure, I just thought that he was someone new. Too Many people in this story. & we keep getting new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Alternatively, it could make for some interesting story if: Oldtown gets sacked by the Ironborn, but Sam manages to locate, and escape with the one thing both Jaqen and Euron are really searching for. Same escapes Euron's grasp with the help of "Pate", whom Sam has already correctly deduced to be a FM (but doesn't reveal that knowledge until -much- later), while Euron's men provide enough interference for Sam to also escape Pate/Jaqen. You can have chapters of Sam fleeing back north through the Reach (which could be under siege from Aegon/Dorne, in order to reach his father/Gilly), and then both of them pushing towards King's Landing as it becomes besieged by Aegon, Dorne, and Daenarys... At the sack of King's Landing, Sam can get his archery kill and have some kind of reckoning or reconciliation with his father, and reveal he always knew who/what "Pate" was, killing him (potentially with a bow).. With "Pate"/Jaqen dead, the FM send someone who knows Westeros/ knew Jaqen to finish his contract, and Arya gets a plot reason to join the Westeros story. This would could give some of the best suspense/action oriented sequences in the entire book, as it puts Sam in 3 of the potentially biggest conflict areas in all of Westeros, and has him desperately trying to survive/get whatever he finds at the Citadel back to the wall while dodging Euron's death squads and one of the most dangerous assassins in Planetos. It would also give GRRM an excuse to do over arching plot reveals on Dragons, White Walkers, Songs of Ice and Fire etc, as Sam tries to explain what is happening to Gilly (since it would also be one of the first times you really would get a chance to see what the Maesters know that others don't). Finally, it sets Sam up for a giant hero/redemption arc that could possibly culminate with his death, as well as the triumphant return of Arya to plot significance (especially if she is the one to kill Sam, Sam recognizes her before he dies, and it directly or indirectly leads to a Jon/Arya reunion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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