larastone Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 A lot of the stuff in this thread is based on speculation and discussion. This is no different.Mercy scene? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Mercy_%28The_Winds_of_Winter%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 so i'm guessing Cersei is going to have Meryn Trant kill the current high septon? makes sense as she goes to the sept with him in the first episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Farouk_Laaroussi Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 A scene in which she will kill Ser Meryn Trant, after she sexualy charms him, well in the books it's Raff the Sweetling she kills, but in the show it seems like its gonna be Meryn fkin Trant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 A scene in which she will kill Meryn Trant, after she sexualy charms him yeah lets hope they cut that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakfastfestival Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just an idea but does anyone else think Olenna could be talking to Littlefinger in that clip? We know he'll be back in KL for certain parts of this season, would be interesting to see how an interaction between those two would go considering all of their unseen correspondences of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard of the Rainking Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 yeah lets hope they cut that out Agreed. I wonder why Cersei is going to have the High Septon killed in the show. I don't remember him being chosen by Tyrion in the show. Maybe she believes that he's the Tyrells' creature after he makes Tywin's corpse reek, says "Tommen of House Baratheon" during the wedding and agrees that the wedding cloak is going to bear the Crowned Stag of Storm's End or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralKyrd Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just an idea but does anyone else think Olenna could be talking to Littlefinger in that clip? We know he'll be back in KL for certain parts of this season, would be interesting to see how an interaction between those two would go considering all of their unseen correspondences of the past. It could presumably be anyone. The best guess to narrow it down is for someone to figure out where that tapestry in the background was in S4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 yeah lets hope they cut that outWhy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard of the Rainking Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Why? Who would want to see a sex scene between Cersei and Trant? Also IMO the best thing about Meryn Trant's character is that he actually takes his Kingsguard vows pretty seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tixu Oty Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I wonder if that note Stannis is passing Jon is the "his name is STARK" one (or the equivalent). Wow, hadn't thought of that. It would be so great so have mentions of Northern Lords still backing the Starks (and Stannis gringing his teeth about it!!). But I think according to the facebook spoiler, that's likely to be a document legitimizing Jon and making him Lord of Winterfell. Except, contrary to what the spoiler says, it seems according to body language that Jon refuses right away: the way he puts the letter back on the desk in the next picture screams out "thanks but no thanks" to me. The scene with the boltons is interesting. they are waiting on the arrival of someone. even more interesting is the fact that ramsay not roose is standing in the center, usually that is where the head of the family stands. So the person arriving May be for ramsay? Farya anyone. That's exactly what I thought. The fact that Ramsay is in the center means the person(s) arriving are more significant for Ramsay than Roose. I can't think of anything other than a bride. This picture has me really excited! BTW can i just say how much i love fat walda? Also i think the scene where Sansa is crying may be when she finds out her sister (who she thought was dead) is getting married to ramsay snow. Or it could be she finds out Jeyne poole is posing as fArya. It makes no matter because both of them she cared about. I didn't think about that. It would be great if fake Arya is in and Sansa hears about it. I mean, I don't even remember her hearing about it in the books, unless I missed something? But I did like the fact that she heard about Jon. I mean the Stark kids have been separated for so long now, that I think the little moments when they think about each other matter a lot and can add a lot to the show as well. PS: I like fat Walda too. Seems like she's the only good Frey in the show so far (I mean apart from Roslin, but she's been gone a while). You go girl! And watch out for that crazy stepson of yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra Melis Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Why? She's not 18 yet, and if we watched that scene we would be all accused of pedophilia :frown5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Who would want to see a sex scene between Cersei and Trant? Also IMO the best thing about Meryn Trant's character is that he actually takes his Kingsguard vows pretty seriously.They have full on intercourse in the books, or does she just flirt with him?Cersei or Arya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tixu Oty Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 If [Kevan] goes down the same route as he does in the books, I can't see how his death would be of much impact. I think it would be better if they switch his and Pycelle's deaths around, with Pycelle finding Kevan's body before being shot. I believe having Pycelle be the one dying while learning of Varys master plan would be a better way to go for the unsullied. I mean, even if he do actually accomplice something this season, like getting the kingdoms back on their feet, I still can't see how we would really care about him as a character that appears just to die a couple of episodes later. It's not exactly like he's Oberyn or Ned. Oh you're right, it would be nice to have Varys have that conversation in Pycelle instead of Kevan, seeing how they were colleagues for a few seasons. I like that! Gee, you guys should write the scripts! Also, I want to say that the fact that Kevan isn't charismatic like Ned or Oberyn is exactly the point. This guy was the only person in his family who was laying low and just trying to do things right and efficiently with minimum attention drawn to him (kinda like a more righteous version of Roose in a way.... hmm....) and I mean, to me it means a lot that the guy was killed precisely for being reasonable and low profile, wow! After that, if a guy like that can't do it, you know there's just no hope left for House Lannister. If there is no Aegon, then no 'reveal' and the audience is going to know already this season that Varys is supporting Dany, then there is no reason for that whole scene in the show, unless I'm missing something. No, the point of the whole scene is not the Aegon reveal: in the books, we already knew that, and so far there's no convincing proof that Varys is only saying of all that just so that a (living) person can hear him, though I do find that scene a bit strange. Even if that theory proves out to be correct later in the books, it seems to me like it would be way too convoluted for the show anyway. The way I see it, the point of that scene is to show Varys' colors. I mean it's one thing to supposedly back Dany, but it's another to prepare her(?) arrival by actively sowing chaos in the realm. That scene has Varys turning Littlefinger on us, which I think is a nice twist. Barristan the Badass is too underused. If it's Tyrion who gets the lines "Over here. Try me" in the pit, I will rage. I know, on first read, the Meereen chapters only started getting interesting once Barry became narrator. It was great being in the old knight's head. I do hope he gets actual heroic moments in the show this season, it's been a while. She is badass She is badass in her actions, but that sort of quotes just make it sound like she's trying too hard. Not just the character either, it also seems like Emilia is trying to hard. I wish the writers quit giving her such lines, I too think it doesn't work well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 She's not 18 yet, and if we watched that scene we would be all accused of pedophilia :frown5:I think she turns 18 the same week season 5 premieres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakfastfestival Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 They have full on intercourse in the books, or does she just flirt with him?Cersei or Arya? No you're getting confused. Cersei and Arya have sex but Arya is wearing Meryn's face. It's all part of her training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra Melis Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think she turns 18 the same week season 5 premieres. She was still underage when she filmed that scene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 She was still underage when she filmed that scene!True, so i wonder how they'll do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tixu Oty Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Aha. Quit messing with Jack, guys :-pIt's Arya, and she's only flirting. But I think that part will be out anyways becausea ) Trant is no pervert like Raff the Sweetlingb ) Arya hasn't had the time to change that much, it would be to out of character, too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I didn't think about that. It would be great if fake Arya is in and Sansa hears about it. I mean, I don't even remember her hearing about it in the books, unless I missed something? But I did like the fact that she heard about Jon. I mean the Stark kids have been separated for so long now, that I think the little moments when they think about each other matter a lot and can add a lot to the show as well. No, Sansa never hears anything about "Arya's" marriage in the books, at least not so far. In the books, she assumes Arya is dead. In the show, it seems that she still thinks that Arya is alive, at least in season 3, when Littlefinger told her he had seen Arya (in Harrenhal). Maybe they have some sort of a Saltpans equivalent in the show and Arya is presumed to be killed? And Sansa may learn that Arya was at the Gate with Sandor but they missed each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Aha. Quit messing with Jack, guys :-pIt's Arya, and she's only flirting. But I think that part will be out anyways becausea ) Trant is no pervert like Raff the Sweetlingb ) Arya hasn't had the time to change that much, it would be to out of character, too soon.Oh ok, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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