Vastet Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 "- Only he knows about the White Walkers, the other Kings don't believe the Night's Watch and Danny doesn't even know about the White Walkers (Tyrion expects them to be fairy-tales)." I take exception to this. In both the show and the books Tyrion was in KL when Mormont sent the dead mans hand. In the show he made a point of standing up for Mormont to the council (I don't recall what happened in the book, only read them once so far, and it was awhile ago. On my 2nd way through now.). He also now has Varys beside him, who undoubtedly has heard about the Others. I doubt very much that Tyrion still thinks it is all fairy tales. He probably thinks the threat has been exaggerated some, but I'm sure he no longer discounts it completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag_legion Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 "- Only he knows about the White Walkers, the other Kings don't believe the Night's Watch and Danny doesn't even know about the White Walkers (Tyrion expects them to be fairy-tales)." I take exception to this. In both the show and the books Tyrion was in KL when Mormont sent the dead mans hand. In the show he made a point of standing up for Mormont to the council (I don't recall what happened in the book, only read them once so far, and it was awhile ago. On my 2nd way through now.). He also now has Varys beside him, who undoubtedly has heard about the Others. I doubt very much that Tyrion still thinks it is all fairy tales. He probably thinks the threat has been exaggerated some, but I'm sure he no longer discounts it completely. in the books tyrion refuses to see allister long enough for the evidence to rot away. Tyrion did NOT take the Nights watch seriously when he was hand. Tyrion is a likeable character but he's absolutely not the saint and always do gooder the show makes him out to be, there have been a number of situations were he did very questionable actions in the books and he is not beyond petty emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 "- Only he knows about the White Walkers, the other Kings don't believe the Night's Watch and Danny doesn't even know about the White Walkers (Tyrion expects them to be fairy-tales)." I take exception to this. In both the show and the books Tyrion was in KL when Mormont sent the dead mans hand. In the show he made a point of standing up for Mormont to the council (I don't recall what happened in the book, only read them once so far, and it was awhile ago. On my 2nd way through now.). He also now has Varys beside him, who undoubtedly has heard about the Others. I doubt very much that Tyrion still thinks it is all fairy tales. He probably thinks the threat has been exaggerated some, but I'm sure he no longer discounts it completely. Book Tyrion is very different than show Tyrion. Tyrion humiliates Thorne in the book when he brings the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ah well it was Thorne, and Thorne is a dick. Also, book Tyrion doesn't have Varys, since Varys is still in KL. But this is about the show, and in the show Tyrion defended Mormont as someone who isn't going to make stuff up just to get a rise out of the king & council. It would be odd if he didn't say anything to anyone about the walkers in the show. Not now, he has more pressing concerns and Dany isn't even there anyway. But before Dany moves towards Westeros I'm quite sure she'll know about the walkers. It may even end up being the reason she leaves Slavers Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingStannisFan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 King Stannis BETTER NOT BE DEAD Otherwise the story will just be Dany comes to Westeros and no one is left to deal with her except White Walkers and an inbred Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag_legion Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 King Stannis BETTER NOT BE DEAD Otherwise the story will just be Dany comes to Westeros and no one is left to deal with her except White Walkers and an inbred Lannister especially cause Faegon isn't on the show and I doubt Euron would be that interesting considering his LATE inclusion (if he is even on the show). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Reek Snow Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 For the sake of the character I am glad it is extremely likely he's really dead as no more damage can be done to him. However I will definitely miss Dillane's excellent acting (Emmy snub imo), as it rose above the assassination of the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingWhoCared Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 For the sake of the character I am glad it is extremely likely he's really dead as no more damage can be done to him. However I will definitely miss Dillane's excellent acting (Emmy snub imo), as it rose above the assassination of the character. I know he deserved a nomination but didn't get one (Stannis burning his daughter might be a reason) but Emilia Clarke got a nomination because she portrayed "a feminist character in a tough time" although her acting was disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingWhoCared Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 King Stannis BETTER NOT BE DEAD Otherwise the story will just be Dany comes to Westeros and no one is left to deal with her except White Walkers and an inbred Lannister Exactly, it became boring, they killed off many characters but didn't replace them with new one's (from the books) or develop others. With all these "leaks" about Jon Snow and "accidental toy selling" but nothing on Stannis, I believe it is him who isn't dead but Jon Snow is. And WTF are they doing with giving Brienne, a pointless character so much exposure but not introduce some of the important ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Brienne is at least as important as any character they left out. As yet, none of them have actually done anything of note. Some even got themselves killed, accomplishing absolutely nothing. Brienne is the only reason Cat was able to release Jamie. That is exceptionally important. What she may or may not do in the future we do not know, but you're just trolling when you say she's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingWhoCared Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Brienne is at least as important as any character they left out. As yet, none of them have actually done anything of note. Some even got themselves killed, accomplishing absolutely nothing. Brienne is the only reason Cat was able to release Jamie. That is exceptionally important. What she may or may not do in the future we do not know, but you're just trolling when you say she's pointless. After guiding Jamie to Kings Landing her character is on the most useless journey in the series (in the books). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 And that's simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pounce FTW Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Her oath wasn't to kill Stannis or avenge Renyl, her oath to Renly was to protect him and she failed. The reason she named her sword "Oathkeeper" was because the sword belonged to Eddard Stark and she had an oath to Catelyn Stark to protect the Stark girls. Err no, it wasn't. She made her oath to Catelyn with the understanding that her oath to Renly took precedence and it sounds like her plan was to go after Stannis on her own and find the opportune time to act, sort of like how she went after Sansa. When she goes after the girls, she's acting on her oath to Jaime to have him gain back his honor, and her oath to Cat (which is a big hint for how things might play out in the books): "If you left us, where would you go?" Catelyn asked her. "Back," Brienne said. "To Storm's End." "Alone." It was not a question. The broadface was a pool of still water, giving no hint of what might live in the depths below. "Yes." "You mean to kill Stannis." Brienne closed her thick callused fingers around the hilt of her sword. The sword that had been his. "I swore a vow. Three times I swore. You heard me." "I did," Catelyn admitted. Catelyn glanced across the camp. Two men were walking sentry, spears in hand. "I was taught that good men must fight evil in this world, and Renly's death was evil beyond all doubt. Yet I was also taught that the gods make kings, not the swords of men. If Stannis is our rightful king - " "He's not. Robert was never the rightful king either, even Renly said as much. Jaime Lannister murdered the rightful king, after Robert killed his lawful heir on the Trident. Where were the gods then? The gods don't care about men, no more than kings care about peasants." "A good king does care." "Lord Renly . . . His Grace, he . . . he would have been the best king, my lady, he was so good, he . . . " Renly's enemies are Robb's enemies as well." Brienne stared at the ground and shuffled her feet. "I do not know your son, my lady." She looked up. "I could serve you. If you would have me." Catelyn was startled. "Why me?" "No, but you have courage. Not battle courage perhaps but . . . I don't know . . . a kind of woman's courage. And I think, when the time comes, you will not try and hold me back. Promise me that. That you will not hold me back from Stannis." Catelyn could still hear Stannis saying that Robb's turn too would come in time. It was like a cold breath on the back of her neck. "When the time comes, I will not hold you back." She was always planning on finding her way back to Stannis. I'd say she probably will succeed in finding him in the books as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingStannisFan Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mount Roose Bolton's head on a spike; as promised. So do you guys really think they would tell you if a character is dead or not? I mean if they gave an ambivalent answer we'd all be saying OH HE'S ALIVE... so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davrum Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I've always thought that if he lives it's because Brienne takes him to Roose as a way to get closer to Sansa, so what Stannis will do if he wasn't killed is hang upside down on a Bolton cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreenmanalishi83 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I've always thought that if he lives it's because Brienne takes him to Roose as a way to get closer to Sansa, so what Stannis will do if he wasn't killed is hang upside down on a Bolton cross. Maybe that's Brienne's plan but they run into Sansa and Theon on their way to Winterfell, then Sansa urges Brienne not to kill him as it was his claim to the throne her father supported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davrum Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Maybe that's Brienne's plan but they run into Sansa and Theon on their way to Winterfell, then Sansa urges Brienne not to kill him as it was his claim to the throne her father supported? I'd love that, but that would be too nice, so I doubt it goes that way. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogonthedread Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 dying in another possible way be it hanging or flayed or head on the spike or burnt At the hands of boltons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogonthedread Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 After guiding Jamie to Kings Landing her character is on the most useless journey in the series (in the books). After geting mel and davos to north stannis became useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKnightOfJests Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I personally think if Stannis the Mannis was still alive, he would (if Jon comes back) be a sort of Military type of adviser to Jon in the upcoming war with the White Walkers. I like to think Brienne spares him and as they begin travel, they run across Sansa, who proceeds to yell at Brienne about not seeing the candle (season 5 made me hate Brienne as a character), maybe Stannis could then convince Sansa to at least let Brienne escort her to Castle Black. They travel to the keep, and walk in just in time to see a torch be set upon Jons pyre, Sansa is sad since more bad things are happening, Reek is sad for being Reek, Brienne and Pod, don't know what's happening, and Stannis walks in just in time to see Mel saying words next to Jons pyre. The Mannis is enraged, and stabs her after she says the last words, everything looks bleak until Jon stands up in the flames,brought back from the dead, and being immune to fire since he's part Targaryen. Sansa is happy, Reek is still sad, Brienne and Pod still don't know what's happening, and Stannis has a new job application. END, of season 6 episode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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