Rise Above Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm interested to see how the aftermath to Snow's death his handled. They didn't make any attempt to cover up the fact that it was a mutiny. Can't see the Watch remaining intact long if they openly come out and say they killed him cause 'fuck the Wildlings'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm interested to see how the aftermath to Snow's death his handled. They didn't make any attempt to cover up the fact that it was a mutiny. Can't see the Watch remaining intact long if they openly come out and say they killed him cause 'fuck the Wildlings'. A little too late for that, don't you think ? The time for that mutiny would have been for Ser Alliser to not open the gates. Now, tens of thousands of wildllings Free Folk are on the southern side of the Wall. And while they might not love Lord Commander Jon, they respect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tyrion I Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I'm interested to see how the aftermath to Snow's death his handled. They didn't make any attempt to cover up the fact that it was a mutiny. Can't see the Watch remaining intact long if they openly come out and say they killed him cause 'fuck the Wildlings'. Well, actually, it happened at night. So they have the chance to cover it up. And there's still people like Dolorous Edd, Tormund and Wun Wun (I'm counting the giant as a person here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Above Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 A little too late for that, don't you think ? The time for that mutiny would have been for Ser Alliser to not open the gates. Now, tens of thousands of wildllings Free Folk are on the southern side of the Wall. And while they might not love Lord Commander Jon, they respect him. That's what I mean. Unless they left the corpse and the "Tratior" sign there just for dramatic TV effect and staged something different later on, there's no other future for them but being completely fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 That's what I mean. Unless they left the corpse and the "Tratior" sign there just for dramatic TV effect and staged something different later on, there's no other future for them but being completely fucked. Totally. They're fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Some incompetent non-entity will be the 999th Lord Commander with Azor Ahai being the 1000th and last Lord Commander of the Nights Watch. It can be Bowen Marsh for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Some incompetent non-entity will be the 999th Lord Commander with Azor Ahai being the 1000th and last Lord Commander of the Nights Watch. It can be Bowen Marsh for all I care. Yep. But it would be poetic justice for Ser Alliser to hold that post for like... 20 minutes... Dude's an a-hole. Let him feel the power for a couple of minutes before his head is separated from his body by Jon's sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Yep. But it would be poetic justice for Ser Alliser to hold that post for like... 20 minutes... Dude's an a-hole. Let him feel the power for a couple of minutes before his head is separated from his body by Jon's sword. Actually my gut tells me Thorne will be Jon's number one guy when he finds out he's a secret Targaryen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Above Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Let him feel the power for a couple of minutes before his head is separated from his body by Jon's sword. Too quick. Needs to be slow and painful. Preferably I'd like to see the mutineers roasted alive while Jon & crew drink wine and sing songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Agreed. Thorne then a wildling uprising, followed by Jon's return and the horn of Joramun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tyrion I Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Well, actually, it happened at night. So they have the chance to cover it up. And there's still people like Dolorous Edd, Tormund and Wun Wun (I'm counting the giant as a person here). Quoting myself. There's also Davos and Melisandre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGpanther Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I'm hoping for a scene where Alliser, Olly and the rest of the FTW pricks relize Jon was right when a 50k Other army charges and climbs the Wall, obliterating the Nights Watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Too quick. Needs to be slow and painful. Preferably I'd like to see the mutineers roasted alive while Jon & crew drink wine and sing songs. I understand the feeling. But that's not Jon's way. Then again, if he is in fact the Mad King's grandson, perhaps the madness could manifest itself in that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Above Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I understand the feeling. But that's not Jon's way. Then again, if he is in fact the Mad King's grandson, perhaps the madness could manifest itself in that way... If Catelyn can come back as a ruthless asshole so can Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If Catelyn can come back as a ruthless asshole so can Jon Catelyn and Jon are more similar than either would admit. "Family, Duty, Honor". The Tully Words. I do think, however, that Jon is a bit more introspective than Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If Catelyn can come back as a ruthless asshole so can Jon I think that depends on how were their minds while they were dying. Cat was full with grief, pain and even rage. She lost it at the end. Jon's thoughts while he was being stabbed were not that bad. his last thought was one of love about his sister. I think he's more likely to return like Madison Montgomery from AHS did. She was all "wtf, I need a ciggy!". I could see Jon waking up and saying "damn you all, mfs, you fucking stabbed me!" rather than planning their deaths.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Friendzoned Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Am I the only one who thinks that, after Jon is resurrected, Alliser should and could serve as his right hand man? I mean, Alliser is a badass, especially when he led the fight against the Wildlings in S4. Just my two cents. I do expect he'll be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Am I the only one who thinks that, after Jon is resurrected, Alliser should and could serve as his right hand man? I mean, Alliser is a badass, especially when he led the fight against the Wildlings in S4. Just my two cents. I do expect he'll be killed. Alliser's "Tonight we fight." mini-speech was my second favorite part of that episode. After Gren Donal Noyed his way into the afterlife. Doubt he'd become Jon's number two after assassinating him but imagine Jon nonchalantly giving him an order after climbing off his funeral pyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daphne of House Vakarian Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Methinks things will go as follow... After the assassination, Alliser and his goons will kinda do what Karl (fookin') Tanner did at Craster's Keep.At least similar. They will start gathering out Jon Snow loyalists and start warning them that they will be punished / killed if they try anything.Thorne will most likely use violence to enforce a sort of mini-dictatorship within the ranks but...that won't likely last that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 On the same subject, I wonder if Thorne or someone up there will try and snag that sword, Longclaw and make it the hand me down sword of the Lord Commanders or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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