Why do people keep exaggerating about the sex\nudity and violence?

[Gustavo Fringed Sleeves]

1 hour ago, sweetsunray said:

As a Belgian exposed to plenty of European material I'm used to seeing both male and female nude in series and movies since ever I remember (even as a child). I don't have any issue with a boob, bush, butt or penis shown. Not in the real world, not on screen. Nudity is normal for me. But I have to say... as long as it's shown as normal in the right context. People making love to each other with bras on and a blanket up to their chin, and men getting out of bed wrapped in a sheet while only their lover (with whom they just had sex) is in the room is absurd. The problem though in aGoT is that the nudity and sex shown in aGoT is almost always in sexploitation context: sex workers or rape. And in the few love making situations we actually do get it was either turned into a rape in the show, OR the guy if fully clothed. I wouldn't mind some of the sex work or rape depicted as being part of the world and life (and it still is) if it was done with consideration and balanced off with the more natural nudity, rather than cheap sexposition and flashing a boob or butt to make the quota.

Bolded the key word here. I threw that word around some days ago, and it's pretty telling: most, if not all, of nudity left in GoT is in the context of what you'd see in a sexploitation flick. Even softcore feature films have more nudity in the context of intimate sexual intercourse.

One factor is that, as the series progressed, the female main cast started to wield more power in the negotiations to limit how much skin they show. So, HBO has to fill the "proverbial" quota with cheap extras and porn stars.

Less nudity that contributes to the story. HBO used to be the place for good drama with less creative limits and censorship, hence the nudity. Now it has degenerated into something else.

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1 hour ago, Good Guy Garlan said:

 

- Finally, if Dany feels hurt, sore, depressed, suicidal, used as a horse, and other words you would use to describe sexual abuse, does it count as sexual abuse? Or is it just what Drogo thinks that counts to define it? Is the perpetrator the only one who defines what the act is or does the victim has any input at all? 

This may be ill-advised, but I'm gonna rise to the bait here.

GGG, you keep insisting people to either SAY it is rape or SAY it is not. To me, this chapter is far more complicated than that. She's not, in her head, at that point in her POV, thinking, "OH GODS there's some savage Dothraki raping me again." She's thinking that is her "LORD HUSBAND," who she willingly said "yes" to on their first night, and she's hiding her tears. Hiding them. She's married to a Dothraki. Would tears even matter? 

I get the sense that she's in despair. She's married to a man who doesn't speak to her, in part because they don't speak the same language. She's lonely. All she has to talk to is her asshat of a brother, a couple handmaids, and Ser Jorah. Most significantly, she's in tremendous physical pain (Ever taken up bareback horseback riding immediately before crossing the Dothraki Sea?). She's married to a guy who leaves her every day and comes to her only at night. He has sex with her. He doesn't ask. But she hides her tears and thinks that she is "glad" she can. But mainly, she's just in a lonely psychic and physical agony. 

So turn the page and keep reading, and something.is happening to her.  

The VERY NEXT MORNING, after her nadir in which she thinks she wants to die, she awakens from a dragon dream:

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There was only her and the dragon. Its scales were black as night, wet and slick with blood. Her blood, Dany sensed. Its eyes were pools of molten magma, and when it opened its mouth, the flame came roaring out in a hot jet. She could hear it singing to her, She opened her arms to the fire, embraced it, let it swallow her whole, let it cleanse her and temper her and scour her clean. She could feel her flesh sear and blacken and slough away, could feel her blood boil and turn to steam, and yet there was no pain. She felt strong and new and fierce.

And, remarkably, she feels better physically on waking.

In the ensuiing weeks, she masters riding, and discovers she enjoys riding her Silver. Her saddle sores heal ("her thighs toughened, supple as leather"). She rides to the front of the Khalasar and sees the sea not as a cloud of dust and torn turf, but as something beautiful and wild. She rides with Drogo and the bloodriders. For the first time ever, she stands up to Viserys, who threatens to kill her, and the bloodriders, instead of going to Drogo and asking what to do with Viserys, ask her. They'll do her will.  She finds herself crying out during sex with Drogo out of passion, not pain. And in the end, she takes control of her marital bed, and Drogo looks into her eyes and calls her name. 

A lot happens in that Danaerys POV. I don't like the "empowered by rape" trope, and to me, that is NOT what happened in this chapter.  Dany is empowered by embracing her life, as a khaleesi and, later, as a dragon.