Damon_Tor Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 5/3/2018 at 8:16 AM, John Suburbs said: It wasn't Joffrey's smarts the convinced the assassin, it was his silver. What convinced the assassin to go through with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, John Suburbs said: why would Mance choose a dirty, grubby and none-too-bright commoner to do the deed rather than do it himself? Why would anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 23 hours ago, Damon_Tor said: What convinced the assassin to go through with it? Perhaps the second half of the reward upon completion. Perhaps fear of retribution if he betrayed the crown prince. Personally, I think he was just a dimwit and he did it because he was told to do it. 23 hours ago, Damon_Tor said: Why would anyone? I doubt even Joffrey has access to a stable of highly trained assassins. This was the guy he found who was willing to do it. Someone hired this guy, after all. It's not like he's killing Bran of his own accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 23 hours ago, LiveFirstDieLater said: snip For nearly three full novels there was zero, absolutely zero, evidence connecting Littlefinger to the Arryn murder. None of what you mentioned -- Robert's fostering, Lysa's abortion, the letter -- points to LF's involvement. That secret wasn't revealed until Lysa's death. The plot was hatched and carried out before the story started and without a PoV to inform us, and yet it still turned out to be the truth despite that ample evidence pointing to Cersei and/or Jaime. This will be the exact same situation if Littlefinger does turn out to be the culprit here -- a plan hatched before the story and beyond the scope of a POV. Likewise, until we got the POV reveal on the ship, there was nothing connecting Littlefinger to the PW -- not Dontos, the poison, the hairnet, nothing. If Martin had simply decided to let Sansa vanish at that point, you still would have no evidence to point to LF. And further, there is still zero, absolutely zero, evidence that points to Rhaegar being the father of Lyanna's baby, or that puts him anywhere near the ToJ during the war, or, for that matter, even connecting him to her abduction. So sorry, but what's illogical is to claim that nothing is possible unless there is clear evidence to back it up when the series is chock full of instances where that is exactly what happened. And even beyond illogical is to claim that the POVs where these secrets have been revealed is the evidence that supports them, and then to claim that no such reveal is possible going forward. No worries, Live. It just seemed like you were getting testy is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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