AlaskanSandman Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) So this is a look at the Roman/Latin influences found with in the story and what clues they may give. This is just a general look and not a deep analytical dive. Mainly just wanted to compile clues or inspirations relating to Rome. Valyrian comes from the Valir people of Valland in Norse myth, led by Kjarr. This is Caesar and Roman-Gaul. Add in the -ia found in many Latin place names like Albania, and you end up with Valiria. Which works for the Greenman myth of Garth the Green, as Valerian is also an herb. The Valirians/ Romans used to go to England to get tin and other stuff. One such place is Belerion, the Island now known as Ictus. This is like Valyrians coming for Dragonglass perhaps. The Valirians built many roads through England, one of the main roads is known as the Fosse-way that runs south to North. Which brings to mind House Fossoway One famous possible roman was Arturius. Who came down in history as King Arthur, possibly from Celtic Artos meaning Bear. Making him the Bear king of sorts. The Last Hero who stayed in England to lead a resistance against the invading Sea Peoples known as Saxons. The Saxons who are related to the other later sea peoples, the Norse Vikings. The Norse is where the Vandals comes from. Like the Romans pulling out of England, the Valyrians appear to have pulled out of Westeros. Leaving behind advanced buildings the locals couldn't rebuild. They left possible families behind like that of Arthurs. A possible one in the books is Lanista for the Lannisters. Lanista is a Gladiatorial pimp, something we see Tyrion caught up in some when he goes to Essos and joins the fighting pits. The Lannisters trace back to the Age of Heroes near when the Wall was built. The Germanic age of Heroes that the Valir people pop up in, is around the time that Hadrians Wall was erected. Germans even serving as Guards on the Wall. The Valirians/Romans and English/Westeros were both founded by descendants of Aeneas, a Trojan Prince who survived the Trojan War with Greece. Roman going to far as to submit Greece/Ghis in later ages as payback for Troy. This suggest that Valyria and Westeros were settled by family members who were related, and that the Valyrians have a blood claim to the Island in a similar way that the Normans had a claim. Perhaps there was a recent wedding in Westeros with someone from Valyria or one of the Free-Cities founded by Valyria. Giving the Essosi a recent claim to the Island as well as an Ancient claim. Brutus and Aeneas are the British and Roman founders. Now, The Worst Year on Earth. 536Ad possibly during the time of King Arthur, or, general time he is listed to really. 536Ad saw a volcanic eruption in the far East that covered the world in darkness for a year. The Long Night that the Bear King Last Hero led his Island people out of and into a new Dawn. The Northern Dawn? Aurora Borealis- Northern Dawn. Where the Big Bear and Lil Bear constellations are, With the Lil Bear connecting to the Dragon constellation of the North. With King Arthur's father being Uther Pendragons, the Head Dragon. Making Arthur, the Dragon/Bear of the North. Tying in House Dayne, and House Mormont. House Mormont who gives Jon Snow Long Claw, their ancestral sword. The Bear-Dragon though, descends from the Great Wolf/Wolves, Romulus and Remus. Who were suckled by wolves and grew to found Rome, the heart of the Valirian people. This suggest that the Last Hero was of the Wolf family that became dragons, and Bears as they went north. Maybe they were always dragons of fire, but became Ice Dragons of the North when they went North. The White Phantom bride of Arthur. Guinevere, from Welsh Gwenhwyfar. This brings to mind the 13th Lord Commander and his corpse bride at the Wall. The Old North of the Hen Ogledd was the region now associated with Northumbria, south of Hadrians wall. House Umber is likely inspired by this. The blood of the native people ran strongest here, as the Valirians didn't bother much with the Highlands other than building a wall to protect their southern territories. The Greenman is a myth mentioned in the South, and beyond the Wall in Scotland. Scotland being the other Alban kingdom along with the Kingdom of Alba Longa in Italy that Rome came from. That is most all the ones I can think of that relate largely to Rome. There are other inspiration like the War of the Roses and the Lannister name similarity to the Lancasters. House Tudor who actually got the crown, was neither German or Latin/French. They were Welsh, the native blood of the Island. Henry the VIII and Queen Elizabeth mark the union of England south of the Wall. What particularly this means to the story I leave to you, but the Welsh flag is the Red dragon of the Welsh, vs the White Dragon of the Saxons. Arthur is usually depicted as blood of both Rome and England through the female line. Henry the VIII's older brother who was supposed to be king till his death, was named Arthur, after their legendary ancestor. House Tudor won the War of the Roses though between the Starks/Yorks and the Lannisters/Lancasters. So keep an eye out for which House this could be that beats House Stark and Lannister. Quote Loose Bolt Last king of Rome was Lucius Tarquinius Superbus (Tarq instead of Targ) and by the founding myth of the republic he lost his crown bc his son raped wife of VIP and so started a rebellion against his father that turned Rome as a republic. Quote Craving Peaches Don't forget the Emperor Valerian! Rumoured to have been killed by the Persian Emperor Shapur I by being forced to swallow molten gold (in one version of the story). Sounds familiar... Edited December 1, 2022 by AlaskanSandman Aldarion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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