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  1. If you except the fact that you are being mislead, then the picture changes. Like Andals building round towers. When there are no round towers in Pentos, a mostly andal city. Also, there are no ruined castles with round towers mentioned in Essos near Andalos. The Aryns only built theirs after visiting the castles of Westeros. The Maesters are either purposely or accidentally reporting history wrong. The Andals are who broke the pact during the Age of Heroes that was established between the First Men and the Cotf
  2. Yet there are clear hints that the Andals were there then, Like Lann the Clever being an Andal, or the descendant of an Andal. Through Floys the Fox or Rowan Goldtree, which connects House Gardener who is off having Tourney's with Knights and dragon slayers. Also the castles having round towers among other things.
  3. I still think the Age of Heroes was the beginning or early migration of Andals. Akin to the Anglo-Saxon migration to England before the Viking invasion. Both groups being part of the Germanic families as opposed to the Celtic societies they invaded in England. The Valyrian invasion is akin to the Romans who in Norse culture were called the Vallir people in the Kingdom of Val. Using the spelling themes of the Romans found in Hispania, you turn Val or Valir, into Valiria/ Valyria. Who likewise built roads that they became famous for.
  4. I would say based on what we've seen thus far. He is unpredictable. For some one like Doran who probably feels that he can predict most peoples actions, has a hard time predicting Darkstar. As Darkstar has few loyalties and belongs to a cadet branch of a major house. Meaning he's probably a schemer who is looking to rise in ranks. Meaning that the only thing Doran can count on with Dark Star, is that he is dangerous. Like how Roose should never have been trusted. Anything beyond that is hard to tell from the scant info we're given about him.
  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_constructed_by_J._R._R._Tolkien#Mannish_languages Lô- / loh- corresponding to Anglo-Saxon éoh, "war-horse", and the derived names Lôgrad for "Horse-Mark", and Lohtûr for Éothéod, "horse-people". This word is an exact homonym of the Hungarian word for "horse", ló. The Rohirric word for "horse" has been identified as a cognate for Tolkien's Elvish words for "horse": rocco (Quenya) and roch (Sindarin). All names beginning with Éo- supposedly represent Rohirric names beginning with Lô- or Loh-, but the Rohirric forms of names such as Éomer and Éowyn are not given.[5] An example of Tolkiens work process. So in Elvish, inspired by Finnish/Hungarian, horse is Loh/Lo. The People of Rohan speak a language inspired by the Elves, that Tolkien then translates into an English corresponding Name with the root Eo for Horse. Eo descending phonetically from Lo. Even though in the real world Eo descends from a different origin. This is one such process for his conlang creation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf:_The_Monsters_and_the_Critics Tolkien wrote a book about Beowulf and did a translation of the Book. Pulling some names like Theoden, Hama, and Halfdan from Beowulf. He was a big lover of Old English. Dainn, Durinn, Dwalin, Gandalf, Frodo and the like are all from the Norse sagas. My favorite one though is Fearon from Norman French meaning a smith of Iron. Im assuming is what inspired my favorite Elf, Feanor, the "Spirit of Fire" who forged the Silmarils.
  6. Well Gondor seems to be roughly located where Istanbul/Constantinople would be and was sacked and controlled by the Germans at one time when Germans controlled most of Europe following the Roman Collapse. The Haradrim seem modeled on the Middle East. With the Haradrim and Gondorians being descendants of Atlantis/Numenor. The United Kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor having parallels in the Romans Churches East and West halves, or the Two Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. As most Europeans dynasties tried to link them selves to the ancient biblical tales such as British Israelism. Im not sure Tolkiens feelings on the real world idea, but seems to be going for a similar idea in his story telling though. A missed Opportunity I find though is the location of Nain, Israel and the association that could've been made to the Norse dwarf Nainn from the Völuspá. Given that Durinn in myth was known for relocating the Dwarves. It would've fit to have a Dwarven kingdom in the south that Durinn led some of his people from to the Northern lands. Specially given the association of the word Elf to Alb, meaning white, found in words like the Alban kingdoms of Scottland and Italy. Alban with its root Alb meaning white, is similar to the Semitic/Phoenician word for white or milk, Laban. Also where the Lebanon mountains get their name, for the snow white peaks. Same reason the Alps got their name from the same root of Alb. Alb became Alv in German then becoming Alf in Norse and Aelf in Old English. Becoming Elf in modern English. The Dwarves are among the Alfar, as was Gandalf, so listed in the Völuspá.
  7. Well he was veryyy inspired by Greek. The Blessed Isle of Elysium matches that of Tir na nOg found in Celtic myth, that to the west lay undying lands of the gods. With Numenor matching Atlantis (Likely inspired by Numitor, ancestor to Romulus and Remus of Rome. All who come from Aeneas of the Trojan war. Rome likely being originally a Greek colony that broke away.) With a touch of Lyoness slipping under the ocean waves one night inspiration. And Gothic to my knowledge preserves the Germanic language before the shortening of many words. Like the dropping of z in Germanic languages. Compare Waranos from Proto Indo European (Reconstructed) to Ouranos from Ancient Greece (Uranus in Latin) to that of Wodanaz in Old German. Wodanaz becoming Woden in Old English, Wotan in German, and eventually worn down the smallest in Norse with Odin. Odin and Uranus are cognates.
  8. Yea he talks about it in the appendixes or opening letter to his editor, i can't remember which. He used a little of Latin and Greek linguistic features to do with structure for his Quenya language, but mostly Quenya was inspired by Finnish, while Sindarin was inspired by Celtic. As for Old English, some examples of replaced words are Tungol, for Star. Became Steorra from Latin/French. Or Fell for Mountain which in Norse would be Fjall. The Norse and Old English definitely would have understood each other better than modern shows depict them, like Vikings. Germanic languages are pretty close with German being the most distinct due to the High German sounds shifts. So Day, would be Dagr in Norse, and Daeg in Old English, but Tag in German. Like in Guttentag, Though some Latin and French words are similar to Germanic ones as each came from Proto Indo European. Where as Hungarian and Finnish are language isolates that didn't come from Proto Indo European, but actually are Uralic. Possibly predating the Indo European spread, as Basque also predates P.i.e. So Tolkien was essentially saying those older languages came from the Elves, but got muddied with time by Sindar Elves and men till they resembled Celtic and Germanic dialects.
  9. Yea i think in most other things, he's really good at placing you in the scene with his descriptions. Not so much on the sex stuff though haha
  10. Agreed. And yes, Tolkien is given over credit for his languages as many verbs are missing to actually have a functioning language. Though it can add something to have conlangs I think. It just depends on what you are going for and trying to say with them. Im not so into creating conlangs just for the sake of creating them. Klingon i can understand as its an alien race, but creating fake languages with different human groups just to have them isn't something I would go for. The map issue is definitely the more important of the world building, i would agree.
  11. Already touched on all of this. For suspension of disbelief, it would be out of place to have it in the novel as you are stating it. And as far as Opt, no you don't have to have an operation to be trans by all definitions as some are non binary. Neither identifying to male or female. Which speaks to my point about it being too broad a term and too modern to be applied in the context of a historical fantasy.
  12. Random thought brought on by another thread dealing with somewhat sexual topics (transgender people). Had me thinking, you know what, id actually enjoy it if Martin stayed away from sex all together. Romance, love, and sex do not seem to be GRRM's strong suite in writing. The descriptions given during his sex scenes have me wondering where George's head is at when hes having sex. A penthouse story or Daniel Steele is more erotic that reading about Tyrions strangely bulbous member, or Roberts course hair in comparison to Jamies. More often or not, sex in Asoiaf just gives me the creeps.
  13. Oh I would agree with you there. And as no character would thus be able to openly state "im transgender", its all speculative and "fan fiction" in a sense to go to far down that road. Im not overtly interested in reading a knights and armor tale that openly uses "transgender" in the text, but I am open to a human tale of some one like Arya or Jon Connington struggling with their self identity on some level of wishing they had been born of the opposite sex, like Brienne. While being given a tale of their human struggles and why these type of feelings may arise in people of all sorts. Reading a propaganda piece on modern politics doesn't interest me though. I think Martin has tried as much as he can to include an array of human dynamics where he can and is actually one of his strongest traits as a writer, employed cleverly at times through his pov storytelling method. Something that adds another human level to the story not always seen in other novels
  14. Thats where something as complex as that should be handled less on the nose. Arya would be a good character to drops hints of it into, and let the individual readers apply what they will like people with song lyrics. I dont think Asoiaf isn't the place for those subjects as a whole, just not contextualized in the same light as we would want to view them. This also has the virtue of challenging the reader from their perspective.
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