BigFatCoward Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Last thread was at 20 pages and 4 years old. It's a year since one of the big 9 races (WC, Monuments, grand tours) was won by someone other than Pog, Rog, MvdP, WVA, Remco or Vingegaard and that doesn't look like changing soon. The Giro is the best grand tour with the best scenery https://www.giroditalia.it/en/the-route/ A lot of TT this year (compared to recent grand tours) which bodes well for the 2 overwhelming favourites Remco and Roglic. Other contenders Thomas is a very good grand tour Time Trialist, TGH looked good at tour of Alps and ineos bring strong support as ever. But they are probably a level below the big 2. Jay vine might spring a surprise. Caruso may fight for podium again Vlasov, Almeida and Carthy are only others that might contend But really if Remco and a Roglic don't crash they should be comfortably 1 and 2. Edited May 1, 2023 by BigFatCoward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmanion Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Would love to see Jay vine up there but I think Almeida, vlasov and one of either of ineos riders will be on the podium before him all things being equal. He had some good results early this year so hopefully will be in good form not sure how the injury to his knee is. Without accounting for shenanigans I think it's Remco, Roglic and Thomas on the podium at the end but the giro is always a great watch, can't wait for it to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 It's not over after 1 stage but that was pretty emphatic. TGH did a very good TT for him, and probably happiest of the other contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: It's not over after 1 stage but that was pretty emphatic. TGH did a very good TT for him, and probably happiest of the other contenders. after remco the happiest of the other contenders is almeida. TGH has a tough battle ahead of him against thomas for the leader position. If the team choses thomas he will lose lots of time during the giro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, divica said: after remco the happiest of the other contenders is almeida. TGH has a tough battle ahead of him against thomas for the leader position. If the team choses thomas he will lose lots of time during the giro... Almeida is historically a far better tt specialist than Hart. He would have expected to put more than that into him. After Harts performance at the tour of the Alps he wil he protected long enough for the road to decide. They don't need to burn him up for thomas with the strength they have in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 TGH, Vine and a few other podium contenders losing time due to a crash is a bit unfortunate. At least its only about 20 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmanion Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Happy to see Matthews get a win. Not sure what happened with McNulty being dropped on that climb. Hopefully there isn't too many days with that sort of weather. I thought grand tour organisers were going away from these over 200km days but this giro has a few looooong days early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 Remco needs to be alert and much better than everyone else if the support he got yesterday was anything to go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 remco might be out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 Remco must be the most disappointed stage winner in cycling history. He needed to take a lot more time out of Thomas, Hart and Roglic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: Remco must be the most disappointed stage winner in cycling history. He needed to take a lot more time out of Thomas, Hart and Roglic. he is more dispointed now. Remco is out because of covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmanion Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Must have been the COVID slowing him down to only win the TT by a second. Shame that causes a withdrawal for the race leader hopefully a few other guys and challenge Roglic on the bigger climbs. The 2 Ineos guys are looking decent with a very strong team around them. UAE are strong but Almeida hasnt quite had that extra little bit to get to the top of the top level so far. If Almeida, Vlasov and the Ineos guys can put some pressure on Roglic in the mountains to come it should still be a very exciting race even without Remco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 Ineos having 5 riders within 2mins 30 is going to allow them to give Roglic fits, he will need to follow everything. Shame nothing good happens until Fridays big stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 Vlasov out and Vine out of contention (he could probably win a stage or 2 if not injured now though). Ineos have 5 in top 11. Roglic needs eyes in back of his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 tao is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 Looks like whoever finishes will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 What a fucking shitshow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: What a fucking shitshow. worst mountain stage I have seen in years. the cyclists can't start a war to have a 75 km stage and then do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmanion Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 They've been doing nothing for nearly 2 weeks now. The queen stages of the Giro seem to be cursed in recent times with route modifications and or GC neutralisation. As far as I'm aware they initially shortened the big climb because of snow on the road which is fair enough. As far as I'm aware the rest of the route was clear just wet, in some cases I've been able to see why things have been changed before but this is baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 looks like another miserable stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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