Delayed or Cut?

[Hippocras]

12 hours ago, Lord Varys said:

At this point we should indeed have casting confirmation as we would have for Nettles. Both Daeron and Nettles are crucial characters people want to see and ask about, and it makes little sense that they tell us that they cast the other dragonseeds and (so far) tertiary characters like Ser Alfred Broom ... but not Daeron and Nettles.

Yes.

Basically there are 2 possiblilities, the first more likely than the second:

1. Daeron and Nettles are introduced in season 3 - certainly mentions for Daeron are needed this season but Nettles may also get a mention or even a cloaked appearance (easily re-cast) this season.

3. If both Nettle and Daeron are in fact cast and appearing this season they have done a very good job of keeping it secret. And the only reason for doing so IMO would be to give the REST of the new cast a bit of a chance to get some publicity for their characters. If Nettles and Daeron are well-known actors then all of the attention would be on them if the casting was announced. This is why high profile casting would be the only reason to keep it secret.

Edited April 11 by Hippocras

[Lord Varys]

7 hours ago, Hippocras said:

1. Daeron and Nettles are introduced in season 3 - certainly mentions for Daeron are needed this season but Nettles may also get a mention or even a cloaked appearance (easily re-cast) this season.

Not sure if there would be any sense to having a cloaked Nettles appearance rather than properly casting her already for season 2.

If they want to properly depict her bonding with Sheepstealer there would be some tweaks to her story in any case as she must have had a sponsor for her dragon adventure. Nettles grew up as a poor dockside whore, she wouldn't have the funds to feed dozens or scores of sheep to a dragon before she claimed him.

That is part of the reason why they might have postponed her introduction because she might be somebody who is either pushed to make an attempt (because they know she has Targaryen blood and tell her) or they help her to go through with her plans.

The show also better tell us who Ulf and Hugh are, and how they end up thinking it would be a good idea for them, specifically, to try to mount dragons. Unlike the books - where a dragon is more or less yours from the moment you first mounted him successfully - the show has this as a process and a bond that doesn't necessarily include total control at all times as Aemond-Vhagar and Luke-Arrax showed. (Dany's problems mastering Drogon completely in ADwD indicate that the books might also include such complexities.)

However, the setting means that only people who are reasonably sure they have Targaryen blood would be given access and permission to try to claim the dragons, so Ulf and Hugh will likely either know something about their (immediate) ancestry or be told something about that. The show had Daemon prepare Vermithor for a future rider, so Hugh better not be some random dude with very distant Targaryen ancestors but rather, say, another grandson of Jaehaerys I.

7 hours ago, Hippocras said:

3. If both Nettle and Daeron are in fact cast and appearing this season they have done a very good job of keeping it secret. And the only reason for doing so IMO would be to give the REST of the new cast a bit of a chance to get some publicity for their characters. If Nettles and Daeron are well-known actors then all of the attention would be on them if the casting was announced. This is why high profile casting would be the only reason to keep it secret.

With Nettles chances for her casting are very low because we now know who plays Ulf, Hugh, and the Hull brothers. Why tell us this but not who is playing Nettles?

And for Daeron it is a given that we would have either had reports about scenes featuring him or casting reports/rumors about other Oldtown characters from his story line.

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